For those who do not know me from my previous existence on another board in a place a long way away, I'll summarise me.

Been training since I was about 17-18yrs, although there was one BIG break from 1997 to about 2003-4 due to a divorce and me going off the rails, much alcohol etc. So anyway started back. Have struggled with injuries here and there & if I am very honest due to training alone and my stupid shifts it does not take a lot for me to have an excuse to miss a session ie tiredness etc. Then last year I stopped in May, picked up an injury, like I say any excuse, years ago I would have trained around it. Possibly would have carried on if I had a training partner. BUT at the end of the day I know these are all excuses! Believe me at 46 it gets easier to make an excuse lol! Then the girlfriend of 4 years dumped me so I started smoking (after 4 years off), drinking too much bla de bla de bla, anti-deps etc.

I'm now fine!

Anyway am now back seriously (again). I've trained (very) intermittently since beginning of the year. Am now back and just conditioning myself with total body workout - 2 or 3 times a week just depending on my shifts for that week. Anyway why is this in the DARK SIDE you ask?

Well, at the end of August I'm off to the US for a week & when I get back I am thinking of opening the pharm (pro-hormone) cupboard. In there lies 3 bottles of superdrol, 2 bottles of MD2 & in the freezer 2 bottles of s1+.

I'll not be using all at once obviously ...But am seriously looking at running a course. I know I'm nowhere near full potential etc etc, but I also know I'm now damn well 46 and gains are definately harder to come by. fat is easier to come by and keep . I think apart from age this could also be down to the problems shifts cause with cortisol production.

So hit me with it straight guys on whether you think I should or should not hit a course.

Well done now your back on the straight and narrow.

I say hit it yes, you only live once! Good luck in what you decide and the best for the future.

Paul

Go for it, but I'd do it with something less harsh than SD. Try Epistane as it is much milder.

Best of luck.

SD is bad on your liver,cholesterol and causes problems with your LH/FSH. People thinks its a safer route but its not very harsh, i do have bloodwork from someone who ran a SD cycle and it shows just how bad it is, i will post it if needed....id reconsider your approach IMHO

marcus300 wrote:SD is bad on your liver,cholesterol and causes problems with your LH/FSH. People thinks its a safer route but its not very harsh, i do have bloodwork from someone who ran a SD cycle and it shows just how bad it is, i will post it if needed....id reconsider your approach IMHO

Marcus I am aware of how harsh SD can be, I researched it a lot. I also have run it before although I cut the course short due to an injury. Its also the original SD that I have for info.

I have not heard of any problems with LH/FSH so I would be interested to know what these were.

marcus300 wrote:SD is bad on your liver,cholesterol and causes problems with your LH/FSH. People thinks its a safer route but its not very harsh, i do have bloodwork from someone who ran a SD cycle and it shows just how bad it is, i will post it if needed....id reconsider your approach IMHO

I have only heard bad stuff about SD as well mate.

simon m wrote:

marcus300 wrote:SD is bad on your liver,cholesterol and causes problems with your LH/FSH. People thinks its a safer route but its not very harsh, i do have bloodwork from someone who ran a SD cycle and it shows just how bad it is, i will post it if needed....id reconsider your approach IMHO

I have only heard bad stuff about SD as well mate.

As I say, I'm aware of all the 'bad stuff' said about SD, same as M1T when that was about. That said many people have run both and had no permanent problems.

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simon m wrote:

marcus300 wrote:SD is bad on your liver,cholesterol and causes problems with your LH/FSH. People thinks its a safer route but its not very harsh, i do have bloodwork from someone who ran a SD cycle and it shows just how bad it is, i will post it if needed....id reconsider your approach IMHO

I have only heard bad stuff about SD as well mate.

As I say, I'm aware of all the 'bad stuff' said about SD, same as M1T when that was about. That said many people have run both and had no permanent problems.

Fair enough - when are you starting and for how long (I assume 3 weeks).

Not sure what I am going to do yet Simon. Will not be starting anything until I get back from Nashville as I suspect that vast amounts of alcohol may be imbibed during the trip.

I may not run the SD and go for the MD2 with the S1+ transdermal.

Resurrected wrote:Not sure what I am going to do yet Simon. Will not be starting anything until I get back from Nashville as I suspect that vast amounts of alcohol may be imbibed during the trip.

I may not run the SD and go for the MD2 with the S1+ transdermal.

Nashville - you jammy git!

are you going to meet an internet hunny? Im watching you Res! All sounds suspect....Nashville for a Week! oh yeh! Course you are!

kp1512 wrote:are you going to meet an internet hunny? Im watching you Res! All sounds suspect....Nashville for a Week! oh yeh! Course you are!

I wish! Not that exciting http://www.adelesmusic.co.uk/lmg_gathering.htm

Is superdrol a bit like dbol?

I dont know much about it to be honest. Out of curiosity Rez, Is that your stuff of choice as you ahve used it before and had good results or because you ahve it handy etc?

Running superdrol as a first course is a bit like a virgin deciding that his first sexual experience should be with a porn star with the camera running. It's high risk and you need your bloods doing first, its recks your lipids but boy its meant to be one hell of a ride lol. For sure liver values need checking before you run SD.

Whats MD2 and S1+?

I presume your also afraid of needles like the rest of the homo's on here , at 46 test would rock your world.

Craig wrote:Running superdrol as a first course is a bit like a virgin deciding that his first sexual experience should be with a porn star with the camera running. It's high risk and you need your bloods doing first, its recks your lipids but boy its meant to be one hell of a ride lol. For sure liver values need checking before you run SD.

Whats MD2 and S1+?

I presume your also afraid of needles like the rest of the homo's on here , at 46 test would rock your world.

Just cause we don't like pricks, doesn't make us ghey!

simon m wrote:

Craig wrote:Running superdrol as a first course is a bit like a virgin deciding that his first sexual experience should be with a porn star with the camera running. It's high risk and you need your bloods doing first, its recks your lipids but boy its meant to be one hell of a ride lol. For sure liver values need checking before you run SD.

Whats MD2 and S1+?

I presume your also afraid of needles like the rest of the homo's on here , at 46 test would rock your world.

Just cause we don't like pricks, doesn't make us ghey!

A real man can take a little prick in the back side

Craig wrote:A real man can take a little prick in the back side

I like the new growth hormone non needle applicator that's just being trialled in the US. If that worjks, we'll all be on the real ale!

simon m wrote:

Craig wrote:A real man can take a little prick in the back side

I like the new growth hormone non needle applicator that's just being trialled in the US. If that worjks, we'll all be on the real ale!

Never heard of it but GH goes sub Q with a slin pin, which is totally painless anyway.

Craig wrote:

simon m wrote:

Craig wrote:A real man can take a little prick in the back side

I like the new growth hormone non needle applicator that's just being trialled in the US. If that worjks, we'll all be on the real ale!

Never heard of it but GH goes sub Q with a slin pin, which is totally painless anyway.

Didn't know that.

Craig wrote:

simon m wrote:

Craig wrote:A real man can take a little prick in the back side

I like the new growth hormone non needle applicator that's just being trialled in the US. If that worjks, we'll all be on the real ale!

Never heard of it but GH goes sub Q with a slin pin, which is totally painless anyway.

SUbQ or IM....minimal difference is the release rate and initial spike.

yep, GH jabs take about 2 seconds (from what i have seen on Youtube)

Craig wrote:Running superdrol as a first course is a bit like a virgin deciding that his first sexual experience should be with a porn star with the camera running. It's high risk and you need your bloods doing first, its recks your lipids but boy its meant to be one hell of a ride lol. For sure liver values need checking before you run SD.

Whats MD2 and S1+?

I presume your also afraid of needles like the rest of the homo's on here , at 46 test would rock your world.

I have run a (cut short) SD cycle before. I've had my bloods done within the last 6 weeks and everything is fine.

S1+ = http://www.1fast400.com/z2220_review_S1 ... olics.html

MD2 = A clone of http://www.supplementking.co.uk/alri-er ... sules.html

At your age buddy just do it. As Craig said Testosterone Enanthate would be great for you. injections dont hurt!

I used SD once and dont rate it.but since you have it, run it. Get some AI's on hand first just in case. let us know how hench you get

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Craig wrote:Running superdrol as a first course is a bit like a virgin deciding that his first sexual experience should be with a porn star with the camera running. It's high risk and you need your bloods doing first, its recks your lipids but boy its meant to be one hell of a ride lol. For sure liver values need checking before you run SD.

Whats MD2 and S1+?

I presume your also afraid of needles like the rest of the homo's on here , at 46 test would rock your world.

I have run a (cut short) SD cycle before. I've had my bloods done within the last 6 weeks and everything is fine.

S1+ = http://www.1fast400.com/z2220_review_S1 ... olics.html

MD2 = A clone of http://www.supplementking.co.uk/alri-er ... sules.html

Is the MD2 even hormonal? The S1+ looks like the better out of the two as it has 2 pro hormones in it right? But as steroids are not illegal to buy in this country (just selling is) I would still go with test. SD cycles only last like 3 weeks, how come yours was cut short?

Craig wrote:

Resurrected wrote:

Craig wrote:Running superdrol as a first course is a bit like a virgin deciding that his first sexual experience should be with a porn star with the camera running. It's high risk and you need your bloods doing first, its recks your lipids but boy its meant to be one hell of a ride lol. For sure liver values need checking before you run SD.

Whats MD2 and S1+?

I presume your also afraid of needles like the rest of the homo's on here , at 46 test would rock your world.

I have run a (cut short) SD cycle before. I've had my bloods done within the last 6 weeks and everything is fine.

S1+ = http://www.1fast400.com/z2220_review_S1 ... olics.html

MD2 = A clone of http://www.supplementking.co.uk/alri-er ... sules.html

Is the MD2 even hormonal? The S1+ looks like the better out of the two as it has 2 pro hormones in it right? But as steroids are not illegal to buy in this country (just selling is) I would still go with test. SD cycles only last like 3 weeks, how come yours was cut short?

It was cut short due to an injury, The legal steroids is a difficult one. Whilst they are legal my employer is West Midlands Police and it certainly would not be looked upon in a good light if it was discovered I was taking steroids. Now I know you may argue that prohormones are steroids but they can (could) be bought over the counter, so there is a difference.