http://www.metro.co.uk/news/810028-video-gaming-leads-to-surge-in-rickets
Video games and social networking sites have been blamed for a shocking rise in cases of rickets in children.

Gamers Some doctors thing that the rise in cases of rickets is due to children spending too much time indoors playing video games.

Spending hours in front of a computer means youngsters do not go outdoors enough and suffer from a lack of vitamin D, doctors say.

It can lead to rickets, once associated with poverty in Victorian Britain, but now making a comeback.

Researcher Prof Simon Pearce said: "Kids tend to stay indoors more these days and play on their computers instead of enjoying the fresh air.

"This means their vitamin D levels are worse than in previous years. The number of patients still presenting with symptoms of vitamin D deficiency shows we have a long way to go."

Rickets, which can leave sufferers with bowed legs and fragile bones, can affect children of all ages, from just a few months old through to teenagers. Vitamin D deficiency has also been linked to cardiovascular disease, diabetes and cancer.

Prof Pearce and Dr Tim Cheetham, writing in the British Medical Journal, said there were 20 new cases of rickets every year in Newcastle alone.

NHS figures suggest 100 children are treated in England every year.

The researchers, from Newcastle University, are calling for vitamin D to be added to milk and other food products to stop the spread of rickets.

Dr Cheetham added: "Fifty years ago, many children would have been given regular doses of cod liver oil but this practice has all but died out."

Games industry spokesman Richard Wilson said: "It would be completely wrong to put this issue on the doorstep of video games, which can be beneficial. Things like Wii Fit can encourage exercise."

Cool - now you know who the nerds are - bandy legged buggers!

The researchers, from Newcastle University, are calling for vitamin D to be added to milk and other food products to stop the spread of rickets.

Arrrgghhh... no, the solution is to get them back outside. I hate this attitude of not addressing issues just looking to patch them over.

Dtlv74 wrote:

The researchers, from Newcastle University, are calling for vitamin D to be added to milk and other food products to stop the spread of rickets.

Arrrgghhh... no, the solution is to get them back outside. I hate this attitude of not addressing issues just looking to patch them over.

Agreed.

Very similair to the rise in underage drinking. Let's not address the underlying issues & causes lets just increase the duty on alcohol. **image of chancellor rubbing his hands together in glee**

There's a thread over on old MP suggesting the whole supplementation with vitamin D is a commercial conspiracy theory. and vitamin D is bad for you.

Guess who's involved....

ye evil sunlight and evil carbs

Pain wrote:There's a thread over on old MP suggesting the whole supplementation with vitamin D is a commercial conspiracy theory. and vitamin D is bad for you.

Guess who's involved....

This doesn't surprise me in the least from the person you allude to. With my counselling hat on, I really think that guy should go and get treatment for the severly delusional level of Conformation Bias he clearly suffers from.

Pain wrote:There's a thread over on old MP suggesting the whole supplementation with vitamin D is a commercial conspiracy theory. and vitamin D is bad for you.

Guess who's involved....

Ahem

If it was a commercial conspiracy Vit D would suddenly become an expensive product. Its so cheap it must be hard to turn much profit.


NU - If you're reading this, you always were, always are, always will be the biggest vaginal douche in the universe. Fibre is bad for you MMMMKay......

EVERYTHING he disagrees with is a 'commercial conspiracy' - climate change, ANY research supporting health benefits of any carb related food or nutrient, ANY supplement popularised as good that might contradict his preaching on how diet has to be (to him there's only one viable diet for all humans), any political initiative he disagrees with.

His need to be controversial and to preach publicly and have 'followers' seems to come from low self esteem and a need for attention, his fixed beliefs from cognitive inflexibility, and his twisting everything to relate to his own beliefs (often extremely selectively with evidence) is a clear trait of someone with delusional confirmation bias.

Am I guilty of character assasination? You bet! I wouldn't if I didn't think his advice was at times harmful but i do, and have seen no attempt from him to change the way he presents things, and no evidence of open minded investigation.

Dtlv74 wrote:EVERYTHING he disagrees with is a 'commercial conspiracy' - climate change, ANY research supporting health benefits of any carb related food or nutrient, ANY supplement popularised as good that might contradict his preaching on how diet has to be (to him there's only one viable diet for all humans), any political initiative he disagrees with.

His need to be controversial and to preach publicly and have 'followers' seems to come from low self esteem and a need for attention, his fixed beliefs from cognitive inflexibility, and his twisting everything to relate to his own beliefs (often extremely selectively with evidence) is a clear trait of someone with delusional confirmation bias.

Am I guilty of character assasination? You bet! I wouldn't if I didn't think his advice was at times harmful but i do, and have seen no attempt from him to change the way he presents things, and no evidence of open minded investigation.

I'll interpret this for those who are intelligence afflicted;

NU needs a damn good skull fucking!!

cleaver wrote:

Dtlv74 wrote:EVERYTHING he disagrees with is a 'commercial conspiracy' - climate change, ANY research supporting health benefits of any carb related food or nutrient, ANY supplement popularised as good that might contradict his preaching on how diet has to be (to him there's only one viable diet for all humans), any political initiative he disagrees with.

His need to be controversial and to preach publicly and have 'followers' seems to come from low self esteem and a need for attention, his fixed beliefs from cognitive inflexibility, and his twisting everything to relate to his own beliefs (often extremely selectively with evidence) is a clear trait of someone with delusional confirmation bias.

Am I guilty of character assasination? You bet! I wouldn't if I didn't think his advice was at times harmful but i do, and have seen no attempt from him to change the way he presents things, and no evidence of open minded investigation.

I'll interpret this for those who are intelligence afflicted;

NU needs a damn good skull fucking!!

Or just putting down. He is leading so many very young people down a dangerous path. I honestly hope that sometime in the future when someones health suffers (& it will) that Myprotein and those who allow him to preach his rubbish get taken to court for the harm they are going to cause.

I know my views may seem a little strong but I do feel strongly about the issue.

Dtlv74 wrote:

The researchers, from Newcastle University, are calling for vitamin D to be added to milk and other food products to stop the spread of rickets.

Arrrgghhh... no, the solution is to get them back outside. I hate this attitude of not addressing issues just looking to patch them over.

Agreed 100%. Reactive fixes are rubbish, root cause of the problem is that kids are lazy arses these days.

Will wrote:Agreed 100%. Reactive fixes are rubbish, root cause of the problem is that kids are lazy arses these days.

This is also due in part to the Government fuelling parents fear. Fear that your child will be attacked, raped, abducted, murdered if you let them out of your sight.

Worried parents then by them all the technology in the world knowing that they are safe in their rooms.

Our long hours culture at work means that parents are too fcuked to be out doing things with their kids after work, which is sad but true. That's why Europe is right about having a maximal limit on hours worked.

That's my issue too Ressie. Am perfectly happy not to share the same opinions with people, and see no problem with exploring topics from different view points - none of this is worth taking personally, infact it makes things interesting and any open minded discussion helps advance knowledge.

When it comes to giving advice that could affect health though (or anything else important), anything suggested that is controversial or unproven or different to a standard method shown to work MUST be strongly qualified as such. That's not what gets done over there, it gets preached as gospel and all other theories/methods are shot down as 'conspiracy'.

Rant over.

cleaver wrote:

Will wrote:Agreed 100%. Reactive fixes are rubbish, root cause of the problem is that kids are lazy arses these days.

This is also due in part to the Government fuelling parents fear. Fear that your child will be attacked, raped, abducted, murdered if you let them out of your sight.

Worried parents then by them all the technology in the world knowing that they are safe in their rooms.

Our long hours culture at work means that parents are too fcuked to be out doing things with their kids after work, which is sad but true. That's why Europe is right about having a maximal limit on hours worked.

Yeah you're right. And if we listen to the fear and warnings here, my parents clearly didn't love me as they let me play out in the woods, and ride a bike with no helmet and do stupid stunts on my skateboard. Up to till the age of mid teens I never had a tv in my room, and even then it was a B&W one. My folks never bought me computers or games I had to buy them myself. I was more interested in cars, bikes, doing dangerous stuff, and hanging out with my mates. I didn't start "playing" on computers till well, my mid 20s really!

Obviously I'm not a parent and wouldn't know where to begin, but I guess I'd be one of those horrible strict parents if ever I were to go down that road... No child o' mine is gonna be a fat failure!!

Will wrote:

cleaver wrote:

Will wrote:Agreed 100%. Reactive fixes are rubbish, root cause of the problem is that kids are lazy arses these days.

This is also due in part to the Government fuelling parents fear. Fear that your child will be attacked, raped, abducted, murdered if you let them out of your sight.

Worried parents then by them all the technology in the world knowing that they are safe in their rooms.

Our long hours culture at work means that parents are too fcuked to be out doing things with their kids after work, which is sad but true. That's why Europe is right about having a maximal limit on hours worked.

Yeah you're right. And if we listen to the fear and warnings here, my parents clearly didn't love me as they let me play out in the woods, and ride a bike with no helmet and do stupid stunts on my skateboard. Up to till the age of mid teens I never had a tv in my room, and even then it was a B&W one. My folks never bought me computers or games I had to buy them myself. I was more interested in cars, bikes, doing dangerous stuff, and hanging out with my mates. I didn't start "playing" on computers till well, my mid 20s really!

Obviously I'm not a parent and wouldn't know where to begin, but I guess I'd be one of those horrible strict parents if ever I were to go down that road... No child o' mine is gonna be a fat failure!!

Similarly to you Will my Mum wasn't strict or controlled what I did particularly, but she encouraged me to be active and not to be a sit at home in front of the TV kid. To me that's what childhood is about, riding my bike in the woods, climbing around on the beach, throwing a rugby ball with mates or playing 5 and in footie with the other kids etc. She offered me plenty of oppertunity to join clubs, participate in sports that I might be interested in, learn muscial instruments and all that kind of stuff. She tried to instill in me both a sense of adventure and exploration of the world but also self responsibility.

Plonking the kids in front of the tv with the satellite remote, or sitting them in front of the Nintendo (or any other popular game station, lol) might well allow families to work extra hours and use those things as surrogate parents but it doesn't actually lead to the best kind of upbringing imo. I think once you become a parent, you have a lot of responsibility to your kids until they are adult, and as part of that should encourage them to explore as many healthy interests that get them active and interactive with the world. What you do as a kid largely defines how broadminded and responsible you will be as an adult I think, and kids wired up to the computer or tv all day aren't helped so much in that respect.

To me, priorities nowadays seem to me to be shifting towards everyone being drones fuelling an economy but without as much emphasis on quality of life on simple basic level. No wonder kids are drinking younger, taking drugs younger and teenage depression is on the rise... the qualitative aspect of life is missing and kids are left looking for something more.

Dtlv74 wrote:
To me, priorities nowadays seem to me to be shifting towards everyone being drones fuelling an economy but without as much emphasis on quality of life on simple basic level. No wonder kids are drinking younger, taking drugs younger and teenage depression is on the rise... the qualitative aspect of life is missing and kids are left looking for something more.

Drones are easy to control by governments & unlikely to have a voice that will be listened to. SHIT! I'm starting to sound like KP the Conspiracy theorist

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Dtlv74 wrote:
To me, priorities nowadays seem to me to be shifting towards everyone being drones fuelling an economy but without as much emphasis on quality of life on simple basic level. No wonder kids are drinking younger, taking drugs younger and teenage depression is on the rise... the qualitative aspect of life is missing and kids are left looking for something more.

Drones are easy to control by governments & unlikely to have a voice that will be listened to. SHIT! I'm starting to sound like KP the Conspiracy theorist

LOL- no you have just seen the light and are seeing the world for what its turned into - money and power

kp1512 wrote:

Resurrected wrote:

Dtlv74 wrote:
To me, priorities nowadays seem to me to be shifting towards everyone being drones fuelling an economy but without as much emphasis on quality of life on simple basic level. No wonder kids are drinking younger, taking drugs younger and teenage depression is on the rise... the qualitative aspect of life is missing and kids are left looking for something more.

Drones are easy to control by governments & unlikely to have a voice that will be listened to. SHIT! I'm starting to sound like KP the Conspiracy theorist

LOL- no you have just seen the light and are seeing the world for what its turned into - money and power

lol, we're nothing but a cynical bunch of grumpy old men on here!