Finally ready to do my first epistane pulse cycle, but one question remains that i cant find a simple answer for.
If i dont have any testicular shutdown which by all accounts epistane doesnt cause in many and even less so with a pulse cycle, do i still need to use Tamoxifen post cycle?
Is it simply to bring the gonads back online or are their other worthwhile benefits? I have read that you can lose gains through it so if thats the case, is it best to only use it if neccesary?
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Tamoxifen if no shutdown?
by Marks1972 on Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:24 pm
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Re: Tamoxifen if no shutdown?
by curtis on Sun Aug 03, 2008 10:29 pm
But it will retain gains if your coming off, retain more than lose surely.
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Re: Tamoxifen if no shutdown?
by Alex on Sun Aug 03, 2008 11:43 pm
I think things work different with Epistane because it's a SERM.
I'm sure Tart did a post early on on this and mentions Tamoxifen.
I'm sure Tart did a post early on on this and mentions Tamoxifen.
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Re: Tamoxifen if no shutdown?
by Craig on Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:36 pm
Marks1972 wrote:Finally ready to do my first epistane pulse cycle, but one question remains that i cant find a simple answer for.
If i dont have any testicular shutdown which by all accounts epistane doesnt cause in many and even less so with a pulse cycle, do i still need to use Tamoxifen post cycle?
Is it simply to bring the gonads back online or are their other worthwhile benefits? I have read that you can lose gains through it so if thats the case, is it best to only use it if neccesary?
If your not shutdwon then there will be no benifit to tamoxifen, I prefer tormefene for this purpose anyway. With a Epi pulse cycle its really unlikely that your going to suffer shutdown as both the AI on the off days and the epi will raise test levels. Epi does act like a SERM as it attaches to the beta estrogen receptor, however as its also an androgen so the SERM effect will be more dominant with lower doses or sparadic use (like a pulse). So keep in on hand and most likely you'll end up using it on a future course if you do one.
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Re: Tamoxifen if no shutdown?
by Marks1972 on Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:51 pm
Cheers Craig
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