A quick search on the internet shows that Duggan was not some squeeky clean working guy on his way to work

So is this genuine people with a real issue or a bunch of criminals upset that the cops are on to them + a bunch of scrotes tagging along to steal anything they can


It will be interesting to see whether this spreads to other cities .

Already Police websites are showing posts from officers on their day off not answering their phones as they know its work asking them to come in .
Think about it
Pay - down
Morale - down
numbers - down
Pension contribution - up
safety at work ( and I dont mean the riot) - down due to staffing going down

Add the fact that anything that appears heavy handed will be shown on the TV and could get you jailed

I mean who would want to go and work there !!

GP

Agree! Was having a similar conv with colleagues

The person in question is NOT innocent in the slightest. The looting that has gone on is under the guise of this "cause" but in reality it is an excuse for these waste of space layabouts! I have a guy at work that lives a 5 min walk from where it kicked off in Tottenahm - the pics on his phone say it all! Its about time the Police kicked there f___ing heads in! We are far to lenient in this bloody country. Get the water cannons out and that new heating device and let it lose on them!

More imp - where the fuck are the parents of these kids?! Ive seen some that look as young as 13!!!!

I agree with GP and KP, it's a shame that scum get better protection than the Police...

I'd love to get in there

Bugger - just saw a warning - its hit my area now!

BBC doing trends and mine is also apparently meant to get a number of these idiots.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14449675

The news coverage was mad - apparently the Police did nothing whilst looting went on .........only the News last month said that the Police got involved and started the problems with the students !!!


Oh and there will be cameras and solicitors in with the scum ( sorry rioters !!)


Where are you KP

just in Ilford - they have closed the route in down....kids were with my mum so decided to drop in to see them then just saw randoms out in the street

its meant to spread all over east london.

lets hope this dont happen!

This is bollocks. Bunch of ignorant cunts destroying their own communities and neighbourhoods.

These looters would have done the same even if the economy was perfect. The chronology of events: Black man gets shot by police. Black community shows anger and riots. What do they then do? They raid shops and steal. How is stealing 42" plasma tv's and trainers from JD sports anything to do with the original protest?? Fuck all!

it has nothing to do with it, they're just lazy, unemployed criminals, using an excuse to fill their boots. Not just that, they then burn the very communities they live in. How retarded is that. Ruins it for the people in their communities as well as themselves.

It's nothing to do with the economy, nothing to do with revolution, it's just mindless thugs, getting high off the adrenaline, and antagonism from their peers.

Then it's people rioting for the sake of it, and getting drawn in (regardless of race or whatever...) it's just pathetic and tragic.

Apparently these are being handed out:

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Doesn't come across as "random" to me... nice and organised!

It's disgusting, people's homes, businesses and property being destroyed, mindless thuggery. Ignorant, scum. Bring the fucking army in and shoot the cunts.

Birmingham bubbling now !

Nice leaflets Will , there will also be solicitors giving out leaflets

Gym-pig wrote:Birmingham bubbling now !

Nice leaflets Will , there will also be solicitors giving out leaflets

1-7's mobilised in Birmingham city centre. This will spread to other areas without fail.

East Ham - load of asians decided to confront a gang of blacks and mass fite just broke out......

Ilford - Gold shops are being smashed in...for theft [obv]

Currys - staff as well as looters walking out with high value goods!

its a joke!...this is nuts!

find it a bit odd that nando's and kfc went unscathed

Let loose the water cannons and plastic bullets on the lot of them.

Any legal members representing these guys after this should be struck off.

Birmingham city centre has been locked down. Mass disorder in the city with many shops looted.

this is crazy!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... -home.html

if its not all contained before thursday nite - the weekend could turn into a wider issue with not just businesses targetted

apparently in parts of London anyone dressed in business or business casual are getting robbed.

Well its not in weston super mare, our lay abouts are too content getting high to go and riot.

Feel sorry for all those small business owners in the middle of it, there own their own really.

feel sorry for the small businesses. hard enough for them anyway.

Seems like it could be a police bullet that shot the coppers radio........

I just love the PC reporting thats going on - BBC seem incapable of saying Black and Youths and Ghettos

So true and the BBC when the lad mark duggan was shot...they wouldnt say what colour he was nor the race or 90% of the race of the rioters

they also wont ever say that 80% of gun crime is black on black and the remaining 20% involves 1 black kid the other being of another ethnicity obviously.

Not much happening up here but i know the police are on the case. 15 year old kid put up somethign on facebook for a roit in glasgow and he was arrested within an hour. we dont have ghattos up here though really. oen or two areas and streets in glasgow but nothing like down south

Thing is... whilst 90% of the rioters in London WERE black, 90% of the rioters in Manchester were white. It's just demographics really... nothing to do with race. It's just a lack of respect for law and authority and establishment. Nothing else.

I have to say I am impressed with the father of the young man who died in the car crash in Birmingham .
To hold it together and give such an empassioned plea takes some balls

Nothing but respect for that man and I suspect he has stopped trouble all over the country

Will wrote:Thing is... whilst 90% of the rioters in London WERE black, 90% of the rioters in Manchester were white. It's just demographics really... nothing to do with race. It's just a lack of respect for law and authority and establishment. Nothing else.

It just showed how useless the police are in these times, they can't deal with anything major with their hands tied behind their backs so they have to fill their time with easy targets. Any of them that try to do any different will probably end up with a criminal record them selves.

The police came to my gym and asked if I wanted my alarm to call them rather than me and a couple of my mates............... did make me laugh all day.

Craig wrote:

Will wrote:Thing is... whilst 90% of the rioters in London WERE black, 90% of the rioters in Manchester were white. It's just demographics really... nothing to do with race. It's just a lack of respect for law and authority and establishment. Nothing else.

It just showed how useless the police are in these times, they can't deal with anything major with their hands tied behind their backs so they have to fill their time with easy targets. Any of them that try to do any different will probably end up with a criminal record them selves.

Totally agree .

The middle class do gooders have caused damage anywhere and that includes cops thinking what they can and cannot do .
There are tactics that have not been used and I for one would refuse to do them because of the risk of personally being convicted .

Craig wrote:

Will wrote:Thing is... whilst 90% of the rioters in London WERE black, 90% of the rioters in Manchester were white. It's just demographics really... nothing to do with race. It's just a lack of respect for law and authority and establishment. Nothing else.

It just showed how useless the police are in these times, they can't deal with anything major with their hands tied behind their backs so they have to fill their time with easy targets. Any of them that try to do any different will probably end up with a criminal record them selves.

The police came to my gym and asked if I wanted my alarm to call them rather than me and a couple of my mates............... did make me laugh all day.

Agree - I do have alot of sympathy for the Police in this instance

We are now shouting at the same Police for not doing the very thing that they did - but which then get a huge public outcry.

How are they meant to do there job? Each time they do - youll get the Civil Libs out spouting there shit and making claims to understand their problems and cuddle them.

Gym-pig wrote:I have to say I am impressed with the father of the young man who died in the car crash in Birmingham .
To hold it together and give such an empassioned plea takes some balls

Nothing but respect for that man and I suspect he has stopped trouble all over the country

totally agree with this - i think if he hadnt done that and the media never screened it everywhere - there would have been a HUUUUUGGGEEE race issue with Blacks v Pakistanies in Brum

Will wrote:Thing is... whilst 90% of the rioters in London WERE black, 90% of the rioters in Manchester were white. It's just demographics really... nothing to do with race. It's just a lack of respect for law and authority and establishment. Nothing else.

Will its a commonality - the chavs that then did this - or rather "white" as you call it are in the wigger culture.

This whole thing started in the largely black ghetto areas - and as we know - there is a large number of white kids in todays socitey that want to immitate the black culture in speak,style and music......so it was expected.

Not saying that this is the ONLY reason - but certainly a huge commonality