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Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids

Postby Dtlv74 on Sat Feb 16, 2008 2:52 pm

Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids
By Robert R. Wolfe, University of Texas Medical Branch and Shriners Burns Hospital, Departments of Surgery and Metabolism Unit, Galveston, TX 77550

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Resistance exercise and amino acid intake

The response of muscle protein metabolism varies in magnitude according to the exact nature of intensity of exercise and the method used to quantify the response. Studies determining the fractional synthetic rate have consistently shown a stimulation after exercise (e.g., Ref. 21Citation ), and although results from the A-V balance method have been less consistent, a stimulation of synthesis has been observed with this method as well when the exercise involved several muscle groups of the leg (22Citation ). However, breakdown is also elevated, so that the balance between synthesis and breakdown does not become positive (22Citation ). Thus, nutritional intake is required for resistance exercise to be anabolic.

The response to amino acid intake after exercise is dependent on the composition and amount, as well as the pattern and timing of ingestion in relation to the performance of exercise. We assessed the effect of composition and amount of amino acids by comparing the response to two doses, given 1 h apart, of 6 g each of a mixture of EAA only versus 6 g of a balanced mixture (EAA + NEAA) (Borsheim, E., Tipton, K. D., Wolf, S. E. and Wolfe, R. R., unpublished results). The balanced mixture contained ~3 g of EAA per dose. The total response to the two doses of 6 g of EAA was double the response to the balanced mixture. In addition, in each case the response to the second dose was the same as to the first. This was true even though when the second dose was given the response of net MPS to the fist dose had returned to the basal rate, despite the persistent elevation in concentration after the first dose. Thus, it appears that an increasing concentration activates the synthetic process and the decline in concentration decreases synthesis, irrespective of the absolute value of the concentration. We also assessed the effect of the addition of 35 g of glucose to either the balanced or EAA mixtures (Borsheim, E., Tipton, K. D., Wolf, S. E. and Wolfe, R. R., unpublished results; Miller, S. L., Tipton, K. D., Chinkes, D. L., Wolf, S. E. and Wolfe, R. R., unpublished results). In contrast to the situation at rest, no interactive or even additive glucose effect was observed. This absence of anabolic effect of carbohydrate is consistent with the absence of action of local hyperinsulinemia on muscle protein metabolism after exercise (23Citation ). In contrast, local hyperinsulinemia stimulates MPS in resting individuals (20Citation ).

Timing of intake in relation to exercise


In the experiments described above the amino acids ± glucose were given after exercise. No difference in response was observed when EAA + glucose were given at 1 versus 3 h after exercise (24Citation ). Similarly, when the same mixture was given immediately after exercise the response of MPS was the same as when given 1 h after exercise (25Citation ). However, when the EAA/glucose mixture was given immediately before exercise the response was greatly amplified. Not only was the increase during exercise approximately fourfold above the basal value, the response in the first hour after exercise was just as large as the response over the same time interval when the supplement was given immediately after exercise (Fig. 5Citation ). When total area under the curve was calculated, the response was approximately threefold greater when the drink was given after exercise than at rest, and approximately double the response as when ingested after exercise (25Citation ).


http://jn.nutrition.org/cgi/content/full/132/10/3219S
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Re: Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids

Postby kp1512 on Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:21 pm

Good post DTVL. My thoughts on reading this before, and again now, are that what would be the outcome of EAA with complex carbs?.....taking 30g Glucose before workout would hit many in a negative way?....

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Postby Dtlv74 on Sat Feb 16, 2008 3:59 pm

kp1512 wrote:Good post DTVL. My thoughts on reading this before, and again now, are that what would be the outcome of EAA with complex carbs?.....taking 30g Glucose before workout would hit many in a negative way?....

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I've been taking a 5g EAA's + 5g BCAA's + 2.5g glutamine (at 4.1.1) dose before and during workouts as a bit of an experiment recently and am really liking the positive effects upon recovery. I also have reservations about fast carbs pre-workout and have left them out... and, based on my experiences so far, I really don't think they are needed. I have a carb and protein meal 90 mins pre workout anyway.
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Re: Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids

Postby Hugh on Sun Mar 02, 2008 12:17 am

Yes me too I stoped using fast carbs or any carbs peri WO. Do you think we could say: BCAA and or EAA before training to prevent catabolism, maybe the catecholamines will prevent a rise in insulin.
Following the training HGH increases, we wait 1 hour then we take again BCAA and or EAA but with some carbs to boost the effect of the aminos ???

The goal being to have enough nitrogen to keep control as much as possible of the catabolism, and wait enough post training to have the benefits of the HGH. But giving some nitrogen to boost the protein early enough.
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Re: Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids

Postby Dtlv74 on Sun Mar 02, 2008 1:47 am

Hugh wrote:Yes me too I stoped using fast carbs or any carbs peri WO. Do you think we could say: BCAA and or EAA before training to prevent catabolism, maybe the catecholamines will prevent a rise in insulin.
Following the training HGH increases, we wait 1 hour then we take again BCAA and or EAA but with some carbs to boost the effect of the aminos ???

The goal being to have enough nitrogen to keep control as much as possible of the catabolism, and wait enough post training to have the benefits of the HGH. But giving some nitrogen to boost the protein early enough.


You've pretty much summed up my stategy here Hugh! BCAA, EAA and glutamine as the only supplement taken pre and during the workout, vit c & vit e immediately post and then 45-60 mins post workout some BCAA, EAA and some Isomaltulose (palatinose), maltodextrin & dextrose - not a lot though as I eat a proper meal another 45 mins later! I do always deliberately keep at least a forty five minute gap between training and the carb re-feed to allow those nice anabloic hormones like HGH and IGF-1 to get to work before potentially blunting them with insulin when the glycogen repletion starts.
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Re: Regulation of Muscle Protein by Amino Acids

Postby kp1512 on Sun Mar 02, 2008 9:56 am

i think if your training natural this period of 45 mins pwo can be key in stimulating hormones...but how much recovery do you think will help in that period?...id be inclinded to do as much as possible in driving down bg before bed, so to further prepare the body for good uptake\release of hormones during sleep?
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Postby Dtlv74 on Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:08 pm

kp1512 wrote:i think if your training natural this period of 45 mins pwo can be key in stimulating hormones...but how much recovery do you think will help in that period?...id be inclinded to do as much as possible in driving down bg before bed, so to further prepare the body for good uptake\release of hormones during sleep?


I think there is actually a noticable difference, even on a session by session basis, and particularly when you are gearing everything around pumping out the hormones and doing something like lactic acid training. In truth much of the feeling of better recovery might well be just psychological - but an advantage is an advantage, whether it's a purely physical one or partly psychological and due to the better mood bought about by a good hormonal profile.

Agree with what you say about sleep though - is vital to get not just the time in, but to make sure it's quality time as well.
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