When did it all start to change?

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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby kp1512 on Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:07 pm

simon m wrote:Trey Brewer looks unreal.

I really like Dennis Wolf and Phil Heath.

I think that MP's James Llewyn could do well when he makes pro


Id agree...James does have the make up for this sport..and is a true freak....

Phil Heath is just shockingly advanced...really scary!

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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby kp1512 on Fri Feb 29, 2008 8:14 pm

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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby Mike on Sat Mar 01, 2008 5:17 pm

Trey Brewer is a beast but hopefully he'll be able to get rid of the lard before contest time.
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby Gym-pig on Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:01 pm

Cutler looks terrible (although not as bad as coleman in that picture !!)

Wolf looks amazing

Heath looks jaw dropping - amazing improvements
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby Mike on Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:05 pm

Gym-pig wrote:Cutler looks terrible (although not as bad as coleman in that picture !!


In what way?
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby Jake The Muss on Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:08 pm

Looking at that pic of Trey Brewer ive realised something. I'nm an off season bodybuilder! :)
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby Gym-pig on Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:30 am

nrage04 wrote:
Gym-pig wrote:Cutler looks terrible (although not as bad as coleman in that picture !!


In what way?


Guess this is where it all becomes subjective .

For me he is too blocky , he just looks like a lump of muscle .

At the side of wolf/heath , with their small waists , he looks awful and clumsy

For me Mr Olympia has to be the body all aspiring BB want . Im thinking Olivia,Arnold,Haney,Yates and Flex -people whose development make your jaw drop .

With Coleman and Cutler , very few want to look like MR Olympia
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby Mike on Mon Mar 03, 2008 12:15 am

Gym-pig wrote:
nrage04 wrote:
Gym-pig wrote:Cutler looks terrible (although not as bad as coleman in that picture !!


In what way?


Guess this is where it all becomes subjective .

For me he is too blocky , he just looks like a lump of muscle .

At the side of wolf/heath , with their small waists , he looks awful and clumsy

For me Mr Olympia has to be the body all aspiring BB want . Im thinking Olivia,Arnold,Haney,Yates and Flex -people whose development make your jaw drop .

With Coleman and Cutler , very few want to look like MR Olympia


True it is subjective. Personally i think Jay looks incredible. For a guy carrying so much mass (nearly 300lbs ripped) his waist is very small albiet not tight. Ollivia and Arnold all competed around 210-220 and would struggle even against the likes of heath/wolf/martinez today.

I would like to look like Jay one day. Ronnie used to look insane. OOooh how nice it would be to eat fries, chicken and bbq pre contest :mrgreen:
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby simon m on Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:50 am

I like Jay Cutler as a Man, I have all opf his DVD's and he seems like a good bloke, but by trying to compete with Ronnie he got too big.

Dennis Wolf & Phil Heath are the future.
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby kp1512 on Mon Mar 03, 2008 9:34 am

Guess this is where it all becomes subjective .

For me he is too blocky , he just looks like a lump of muscle .

At the side of wolf/heath , with their small waists , he looks awful and clumsy

For me Mr Olympia has to be the body all aspiring BB want . Im thinking Olivia,Arnold,Haney,Yates and Flex -people whose development make your jaw drop .

With Coleman and Cutler , very few want to look like MR Olympia


True it is subjective. Personally i think Jay looks incredible. For a guy carrying so much mass (nearly 300lbs ripped) his waist is very small albiet not tight. Ollivia and Arnold all competed around 210-220 and would struggle even against the likes of heath/wolf/martinez today.

I would like to look like Jay one day. Ronnie used to look insane. OOooh how nice it would be to eat fries, chicken and bbq pre contest :mrgreen:[/quote]

Olivia would beat EVERY BB in todays environment hands down, if they also had access to the stuff the current load do. Olivia cant be compared to anyone in my opinion.....he was just light years ahead of everyone...Arnold could touch him and he know it....only through politics did he win against him...otherwise Olivia would and did wipe the floor with everyone....

Have you any idea what it takes to evern become there size? Are you willing to put your body through that?...
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Re: When did it all start to change?

Postby Mike on Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:29 am

kp1512 wrote:
Guess this is where it all becomes subjective .

For me he is too blocky , he just looks like a lump of muscle .

At the side of wolf/heath , with their small waists , he looks awful and clumsy

For me Mr Olympia has to be the body all aspiring BB want . Im thinking Olivia,Arnold,Haney,Yates and Flex -people whose development make your jaw drop .

With Coleman and Cutler , very few want to look like MR Olympia


True it is subjective. Personally i think Jay looks incredible. For a guy carrying so much mass (nearly 300lbs ripped) his waist is very small albiet not tight. Ollivia and Arnold all competed around 210-220 and would struggle even against the likes of heath/wolf/martinez today.

I would like to look like Jay one day. Ronnie used to look insane. OOooh how nice it would be to eat fries, chicken and bbq pre contest :mrgreen:


Olivia would beat EVERY BB in todays environment hands down, if they also had access to the stuff the current load do. Olivia cant be compared to anyone in my opinion.....he was just light years ahead of everyone...Arnold could touch him and he know it....only through politics did he win against him...otherwise Olivia would and did wipe the floor with everyone....

Have you any idea what it takes to evern become there size? Are you willing to put your body through that?...[/quote]

To compare past and present champions is pointless. I agree though I dont think Arnold was the best of his time but certainly the most liked.

I have a good idea what it takes, and yes i would be willing to do that. Not that i think I have the genetic potential or determination but, if I ever got anywhere near that level and thought I could be successful I would do it without thinking twice.
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