Winny/Stan and DBOL

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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Max on Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:09 pm

I'm "friends" with afew women atm as soon as were in the sack and I get myt kit of 80% of the time the first thing they say is "are you on steroids" :roll: I ignore them and rag the shite out of em. Does the job everytime :D
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby kp1512 on Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:30 pm

Max wrote:I'm "friends" with afew women atm as soon as were in the sack and I get myt kit of 80% of the time the first thing they say is "are you on steroids" :roll: I ignore them and rag the shite out of em. Does the job everytime :D


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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby GymBunny on Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:32 pm

Rab's hit the nail on the head though. Women have a thing about trust and being lied to or led on annoys the hell out of us. If you are honest, up front and explain the reasoning, most women will come round. Turn it into an ultimatum and, well, I think you can guess how most lasses will react.
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Max on Tue Dec 02, 2008 11:36 pm

GymBunny wrote:Rab's hit the nail on the head though. Women have a thing about trust and being lied to or led on annoys the hell out of us. If you are honest, up front and explain the reasoning, most women will come round. Turn it into an ultimatum and, well, I think you can guess how most lasses will react.


Meh don't bother me either way tbh.. If she gets pissed then make up sex is worth the fight :mrgreen:
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Craig on Wed Dec 03, 2008 6:27 am

GymBunny wrote:Rab's hit the nail on the head though. Women have a thing about trust and being lied to or led on annoys the hell out of us. If you are honest, up front and explain the reasoning, most women will come round. Turn it into an ultimatum and, well, I think you can guess how most lasses will react.



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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby GymBunny on Wed Dec 03, 2008 8:17 am

Craig wrote:
GymBunny wrote:Rab's hit the nail on the head though. Women have a thing about trust and being lied to or led on annoys the hell out of us. If you are honest, up front and explain the reasoning, most women will come round. Turn it into an ultimatum and, well, I think you can guess how most lasses will react.



News just in............. females lie


Yeah I do know that.....I never said it was fair now did I? :roll:
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Alex Wheatman on Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:29 pm

First off. If your mate is going to use orals only i would get him to do some research into his choices. Whinny is a shite drug. There are far better ones out there. Impeding the bodies abilty to reproduce skin cells should be reason enough not o use it.
Has he looked at using anavar?

Right, to the off topic conversation. When a girl hears about steriods and needles they think heroin half the time because thats the only association they have had from the wonderful media out there.
In terms of wether you should tell your partner or not thats something for you to decide but like it has been mentioned already trust is a huge issue. If you are lying about gear, what else could you be lying about?

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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby curtis on Thu Dec 04, 2008 4:47 pm

Well I would not like to use a liver toxic drug for more than 8 weeks, but I mean other than that it looks ok, just inject though, it aint all that bad :)
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Alex on Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:46 pm

I find the Liver toxification comments that are always mentioned regarding oral AAS slightly bizarre as many wouldn't think twice about knocking back alcohol every weekend...
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby simon m on Thu Dec 04, 2008 8:56 pm

Alex wrote:I find the Liver toxification comments that are always mentioned regarding oral AAS slightly bizarre as many wouldn't think twice about knocking back alcohol every weekend...

Actually most orals aren't as toxic as people fear, but you should always be careful.
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby kp1512 on Thu Dec 04, 2008 9:12 pm

Alex wrote:I find the Liver toxification comments that are always mentioned regarding oral AAS slightly bizarre as many wouldn't think twice about knocking back alcohol every weekend...


Have to agree on some of the orals- Var is a good example which has been over exaggerated - only one that has been proven across boards and with Blood to be really bad on the renal is Anadrol50 and that is like 100mg - 150mg a day for extended periods.
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby marcus300 on Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:44 pm

Its a bad idea doing oral only cycles, if you want to cycle do it properly and use an injection its far safer and more healthier, orals put to much stress on the liver/kidneys and are usually only any good in support of some decent testotserone, either kickstart or end of cycle running up to PCT.

If your scared of injection I wouldnt advice you enter into the dark side because running orals all the time is bad news for your health and if your serious about building muscle tissue your going to have to use injections, stop being a pussy and inject there is nothing to it, you dont feel it and if your that scared get your friend to do it.
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby erekose on Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:32 pm

simon m wrote:
Alex wrote:I find the Liver toxification comments that are always mentioned regarding oral AAS slightly bizarre as many wouldn't think twice about knocking back alcohol every weekend...

Actually most orals aren't as toxic as people fear, but you should always be careful.


This is a good point. All of the orals in common use were previously / currently prescription drugs, that had to pass clinical trials. Even with above the intended dosages they would never have passed stage 3 with a high number of severe liver problems reported
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby kp1512 on Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:33 pm

erekose wrote:
simon m wrote:
Alex wrote:I find the Liver toxification comments that are always mentioned regarding oral AAS slightly bizarre as many wouldn't think twice about knocking back alcohol every weekend...

Actually most orals aren't as toxic as people fear, but you should always be careful.


This is a good point. All of the orals in common use were previously / currently prescription drugs, that had to pass clinical trials. Even with above the intended dosages they would never have passed stage 3 with a high number of severe liver problems reported


do you mean the likes of Ibuprofen and anti biotics?
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Jake The Muss on Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:36 pm

So once I lean up a course of Dbol wont do me any harm then? result!
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Max on Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:39 pm

Jake The Muss wrote:So once I lean up a course of Dbol wont do me any harm then? result!


You'll be fine on dbol alone mate (sensible dose), my friend ran 50mg for 8 weeks with only slightly raised liver enzymes. Obviously it will be personall but it shows you how much overstated the hype is over liver damage..
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Jake The Muss on Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:48 pm

Max wrote:
Jake The Muss wrote:So once I lean up a course of Dbol wont do me any harm then? result!


You'll be fine on dbol alone mate (sensible dose), my friend ran 50mg for 8 weeks with only slightly raised liver enzymes. Obviously it will be personall but it shows you how much overstated the hype is over liver damage..

Definately something I will consider,once I'm back in shape of course!
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Max on Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:50 pm

Jake The Muss wrote:
Max wrote:
Jake The Muss wrote:So once I lean up a course of Dbol wont do me any harm then? result!


You'll be fine on dbol alone mate (sensible dose), my friend ran 50mg for 8 weeks with only slightly raised liver enzymes. Obviously it will be personall but it shows you how much overstated the hype is over liver damage..

Definately something I will consider,once I'm back in shape of course!


Wow Jake on cycle !! fkn hell you're gonna be damb strong lol :D

Just make sure you do a good pct pal, dbol is my alltime fav steroid, dbol is amaziinng.
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Jake The Muss on Wed Jan 07, 2009 10:54 pm

Max,when it gets near the time you can help me out with some advice on PCT. I know nothing about it :)
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Re: Winny/Stan and DBOL

Postby Max on Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:01 pm

Jake The Muss wrote:Max,when it gets near the time you can help me out with some advice on PCT. I know nothing about it :)


Corse dood, thers plenty of threads on here I think :) If not just post a new topic.
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