For fat loss I'm starting to rate this supplement now.

Been using 100mg after big meals so approx 4 times a day and there's definately been some composition improvements withing 7-10 days.

Just run out so I'll be after more of this.

Is it coming off round the "love handle" area?

Everywhere mate, but yes, the little I have there is going.

Belly button looks more shallow if you get me.

Alex wrote:Everywhere mate, but yes, the little I have there is going.

Belly button looks more shallow if you get me.

hmm its contoling the cortisol release from meals, makes sense as its linked to the insulin response.

how do you rate it against fish oils?

Well I'd use it along side personally as I take 2 fish oil caps after each meal as well. I'd like to add Krill Oil to this little stack as well.

Alex wrote:Well I'd use it along side personally as I take 2 fish oil caps after each meal as well. I'd like to add Krill Oil to this little stack as well.

I mean the change when you first added fish oils compared to this change?

Oh sorry, KP moment.

Much more profound with the Na-RALA over Fish Oils.

I think Beast over in UKM experienced similar findings.

Alex wrote:Oh sorry, KP moment.

Much more profound with the Na-RALA over Fish Oils.

I think Beast over in UKM experienced similar findings.

wow thats a strong control over insulin then, you mean UGM?

Er, Underground Muscle so I guess so. They have it as UKM on bookmark for some reason

Sounds good...how much do you dose?

ollie wrote:Sounds good...how much do you dose?

Dosing in the first post, KP, I mean Ollie

Damn, sorry

ollie wrote:Damn, sorry

for what? being like me or missing the dosage?

kp1512 wrote:

ollie wrote:Damn, sorry

for what? being like me or missing the dosage?

Both! Aren't they one and the same?

RALA is a brilliant supp to take if insulin sensitivity is a problem.

I also recommend it with PWO if you take lots of carbs (I have 200mg with my 150g carb PWO shake).

In fact RALA is a core supp for me. It energy production, enhances glucose metabolism, is a very powerful antioxidant, has anti-inflammatory effect, is a useful metal chelator, and provides neuroprotection.

All in all a great supp.

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Not so sure of it's cortisol effect though; didn't think there was one.

Would it be any use to diabetics, or is that closing the door after the horse has bolted so to speak?

In theory it will help.

For Type II diabetics I'd go for a paleo diet; keep blood glucose levels low to start with. Then perhaps use RALA with a large carb meal.

Just ordered some from dodgysupplements.com so will give it a go, im going on all out assault at the moment with cardio, biking to work, 15g of fish oil a day, mega dossing cissus and tightly controlling carbs so ill add this in as well.

If that lot doesnt shift some lard nothing will.

Mark, do you use CLA or ALCAR?

Ive got some Alcar at home, stopped using it is all it seemed to do is make my sweat smell of amonia, not sure if i dosed it correctly tho, i was using about half and mp scoop in pre workout shake.

Having said that, BSD blend makes me smell a bit the same so maybe theres some in there?

Nope, not in the Strength/Pump Blend.

Ammonia is usually an excess protein side.

I use about 2g of ALCAR, 3 times daily which is 1 small 5cc scoop for 2g.

health4ni wrote:RALA is a brilliant supp to take if insulin sensitivity is a problem.

I also recommend it with PWO if you take lots of carbs (I have 200mg with my 150g carb PWO shake).

In fact RALA is a core supp for me. It energy production, enhances glucose metabolism, is a very powerful antioxidant, has anti-inflammatory effect, is a useful metal chelator, and provides neuroprotection.

All in all a great supp.

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Not so sure of it's cortisol effect though; didn't think there was one.

Elivated insulin drives blood sugar down leading to a cortisol spike, control the insulin - control the cortisol its all linked.

health4ni wrote:RALA is a brilliant supp to take if insulin sensitivity is a problem.

I also recommend it with PWO if you take lots of carbs (I have 200mg with my 150g carb PWO shake).

In fact RALA is a core supp for me. It energy production, enhances glucose metabolism, is a very powerful antioxidant, has anti-inflammatory effect, , is a useful metal chelator and provides neuroprotection.

All in all a great supp.

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Not so sure of it's cortisol effect though; didn't think there was one.

Probably not the best choice for someone with a suspected high heavy metal burden, as it doesn't bind that tightly with things like mercury and can increase circulating levels, exacerbating symptoms. Best to use Mr P's Metallic detox for chelation

Yes I don't think RALA is the best metal chelator by any means. There are better, but afaik it does or can help in certain scenarios.

Thioctic (lipoic) acid: a therapeutic metal-chelating antioxidant?