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Occlusion techniques.

Postby xRichx on Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:49 pm

In light of Simons Thread on MP about the use of occulsion to enable muscle growth, I've read up a little online etc and decided, why not give it a go.

I didn't really want to post this on MP, as I don't want them high fat ass buggers seeing me get MASSIVE and do the same.

Jokes aside, I was thinking of maybe using this technique for workouts I can do at home with 50kg DB/BB set. Therefore probably Bicep,Tricep, Quads then heading to the gym for my standard three day split.

What would you guys seriously reccommend? How long for? I'm thinking give it two weeks firstly and see how it goes.
Thechniques? Position of restrictors? How tight? how many sets/reps... What sort of diet should I be on (bulk/cut)?etc.

I'll be starting this monday and measuring sunday with pics to compare.

Thoughts and discussion then boys!
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby Tartulho on Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:00 pm

Do a search on ACIT (Accelerated Inroad Training), it's basically this method.
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby simon m on Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:48 pm

Look for X-reps as well.
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby health4ni on Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:13 pm

Funny cos I just read an article about X-Reps:

Question: Have you heard of “X-reps”? How would I use that system in a training periodization plan?
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Answer: Basic X Reps are simply doing roughly 10-inch partial movements near the stretch point of an exercise after you reach full-range failure. In other words, when you can't get anymore full range reps on incline presses, you lower the bar to just off your chest and fire out partials‹to extend the set. This provides more tension time and achieves more high-threshold motor-unit overload.

I would classify X-reps as a “functional hypertrophy” system. It is good for athletes who want to gain mass they can use on the playing field. I would make sure that you reach failure around the 4-repetition point for your range.

For obvious reasons, a spotter would be necessary for exercises that work extensor chains such as squats and presses. For flexor exercises, they can be applied safely and can foster greater hypertrophy without the help of a spotter.

Since it creates quite an overload on the contractile proteins, I would suggest to use it once every other workout for a given body part. Because of the velocities involved, X-reps would be done first in the training unit, when the CNS is fresh.

Note: IronMan magazine regularly features routines using X-reps. For more information on X Reps and its various forms, please also refer to an e-book called The Ultimate Mass Workout, which you can get from http://www.x-rep.com
That's Poliquin's answer.

Looks like a useful variation to add in now & again for certain exercises.
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby simon m on Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:59 pm

Polliquin writes for Ironman which imo is as good as Muscular Development for info.

I do incline x-reps on a smith machine for safety.
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Postby xRichx on Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:55 am

So what are ppls thoughts on me doing this method for a few weeks? good/bad?
Anyone got any idea of a routine they could lay out for me?

I'm not thinking it's best for big compound movements, more like isolation of the limbs...

I really do wanna try this, so any info is appreciated!
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby simon m on Sat Mar 15, 2008 9:11 am

xRichx wrote:So what are ppls thoughts on me doing this method for a few weeks? good/bad?
Anyone got any idea of a routine they could lay out for me?

I'm not thinking it's best for big compound movements, more like isolation of the limbs...

I really do wanna try this, so any info is appreciated!



I'd really advise you to have a look at http://www.x-rep.com for some of their routines. If you have access to a Smith machine, the incline chest work is amazing.
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby julesm on Tue Mar 18, 2008 5:59 pm

interesting!.......i was baffled when i read "occlusion", purely from a vascular standpoint, i thought "you dont wanna do that" :D
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby Orinoco on Sun Mar 30, 2008 5:55 pm

Christian Thibaudeau is big on using constant tension techniques. Be prepared to use much lighter weights though....

courtesy of Mr Thibaudeau.....
Constant Tension

Here we're talking about sets where the muscle doesn't relax for one fraction of a second during the execution of a set. In other words, the worked muscle needs to be kept super tense for the duration of the exercise; the moment the muscle is allowed to relax, the set (using this method) loses its efficacy.

Constant tension sets are obviously performed with fairly light weights since it's almost impossible to maintain muscle tension throughout every inch of every rep of a heavy set. The light weight oftentimes doesn't allow for much muscle damage to occur, yet this type of training has been shown in studies and with bodybuilders to be effective at building both strength and size.

So, there must be a second pathway for hypertrophy stimulation. That pathway is the blood occlusion that occurs during constant tension sets which prevents oxygen from going into the muscle during the exercise. When you perform a strength training exercise while depriving the target muscle of oxygen, several things happen: lactate production increases, so does hGH and IGF-1 levels (two anabolic hormones).

Furthermore, there's some evidence showing that when a muscle is being stimulated in a hypoxic state (oxygen deprived), fast-twitch fiber activation is increased, possibly because the shortage of oxygen prevents the use of the aerobic pathway on which slow-twitch fibers are dependent.

Here we're talking about relatively light weights being used for sets lasting at least 30 seconds, preferably 40-70 seconds (to maximize lactate production) with a relatively slow (but not super-slow) tempo.

The real key is that the target muscle should never be allowed to relax during the set. This means no pause between reps and keeping the muscle flexed at all times. When the muscle relaxes, oxygen will enter the muscle and you lose the efficacy of the technique. Due to the nature of this method, isolation movements are your best choices.


Keep in mind you will be using a shorter ROM in order to keep constant tension on a muscle (think lateral raises and flyes). My preference is to use a 'constant rep, descending resistance' approach (poliquin principles) when using constant tension techniques... Using a 10 rep range with a 2-0-2-0 tempo (lift for two seconds, then without pausing lower for two seconds, then without pausing lift for...etc), sets last 40 seconds. As soon as I can't hit 10 reps I lower the weight for the next set. That way you can hit failure on every set! Use plenty of volume and keep intervals 30-45 seconds.

Be warned though,it's a nauseating way to train.
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby simon m on Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:21 pm

Orinoco wrote:Christian Thibaudeau is big on using constant tension techniques. Be prepared to use much lighter weights though....

courtesy of Mr Thibaudeau.....
Constant Tension

Here we're talking about sets where the muscle doesn't relax for one fraction of a second during the execution of a set. In other words, the worked muscle needs to be kept super tense for the duration of the exercise; the moment the muscle is allowed to relax, the set (using this method) loses its efficacy.

Constant tension sets are obviously performed with fairly light weights since it's almost impossible to maintain muscle tension throughout every inch of every rep of a heavy set. The light weight oftentimes doesn't allow for much muscle damage to occur, yet this type of training has been shown in studies and with bodybuilders to be effective at building both strength and size.

So, there must be a second pathway for hypertrophy stimulation. That pathway is the blood occlusion that occurs during constant tension sets which prevents oxygen from going into the muscle during the exercise. When you perform a strength training exercise while depriving the target muscle of oxygen, several things happen: lactate production increases, so does hGH and IGF-1 levels (two anabolic hormones).

Furthermore, there's some evidence showing that when a muscle is being stimulated in a hypoxic state (oxygen deprived), fast-twitch fiber activation is increased, possibly because the shortage of oxygen prevents the use of the aerobic pathway on which slow-twitch fibers are dependent.

Here we're talking about relatively light weights being used for sets lasting at least 30 seconds, preferably 40-70 seconds (to maximize lactate production) with a relatively slow (but not super-slow) tempo.

The real key is that the target muscle should never be allowed to relax during the set. This means no pause between reps and keeping the muscle flexed at all times. When the muscle relaxes, oxygen will enter the muscle and you lose the efficacy of the technique. Due to the nature of this method, isolation movements are your best choices.


Keep in mind you will be using a shorter ROM in order to keep constant tension on a muscle (think lateral raises and flyes). My preference is to use a 'constant rep, descending resistance' approach (poliquin principles) when using constant tension techniques... Using a 10 rep range with a 2-0-2-0 tempo (lift for two seconds, then without pausing lower for two seconds, then without pausing lift for...etc), sets last 40 seconds. As soon as I can't hit 10 reps I lower the weight for the next set. That way you can hit failure on every set! Use plenty of volume and keep intervals 30-45 seconds.

Be warned though,it's a nauseating way to train.


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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby kp1512 on Sun Mar 30, 2008 7:22 pm

interesting.,....ill go read this up later.....

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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby Alex on Sun Mar 30, 2008 9:09 pm

I've been looking into and experimenting with selective ROM as a method for keeping muscle tension so with may tie in very well and even combine for a fairly potent technique.
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Re: Occlusion techniques.

Postby Orinoco on Sun Mar 30, 2008 11:03 pm

Alex wrote:I've been looking into and experimenting with selective ROM as a method for keeping muscle tension so with may tie in very well and even combine for a fairly potent technique.


Alex, if I were still training people, you'd be my ideal client!! (or lab rat :mrgreen: )

Would you consider giving constant tension training a real go for a fortnight??? You'd have to lower your weights, and adhere to it quite stringently for it to be effective....but when seeking hypertrophy it's not always about lifting maximally....it's sometimes about creating a certain physiological effect in the muscles, and that can entail using lighter weights, slower tempos etc.

You could even hit each session with a quick 5x5 or (8x3)at the end of a workout, as studies suggest it actually improves 2b fibre activation.
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