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Don't squat!!!

Postby Will on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:37 pm

What do you make of this guy's theory?

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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby Rab on Mon Jan 31, 2011 9:58 pm

I think i get his point but just because you can lift more doesnt mean the legs aint well stimulated as the emg shows?
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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby health4ni on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:06 pm

That's quite old and kicked up quite a storm when it was released... 1 week prior to his release of his Functional Strength Coach III product.

Jim Wendler (yes him again, but it's a good point he makes) said this:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/blood_and_chalk_jim_wendler_talks_big_weights_volume_eight
T NATION: There's a ton of controversy about the merits of unilateral movements like split squats, lunges, even single-arm shoulder presses. Some coaches feel they're inferior, others say they kick so much ass they make the big lifts obsolete. What's your opinion?

JW: The best thing about the fitness and strength industry is that you can always rely on it for some really good laughs. The fact that unilateral exercises have sparked such heated debate is amusing, and as always, the answer lies somewhere in the middle.

First, let's examine the pro-unilateral crowd: these people generally believe that one-legged squats are safer than regular squats due to the lighter load on the back; or, because they work each leg independently, you can get a much more even effect on both legs; or, that they have a bigger carryover to sporting movements. There are other arguments I'm sure but these are the ones I hear all the time.

Here's the thing – anyone who's lifted any weight in their lives realizes that doing a one-legged movement with 50% of their squat training load is not the same thing – your other leg does come into play and as the weights get heavier, even more so. So a 200 lb. one-legged squat doesn't really equal a 400 lb. squat.

And even if the load on the back is less, is blindly reaching a leg back (searching for the elevated platform) while standing on one leg really any safer than squatting with two legs firmly planted on the ground?

Whether these one-legged movements carry over to sporting events all depends on whom you read, but people really, really need to realize that weight room work for sports is nothing more than GPP. The sport specific term – and crowd – has overplayed and overstayed its welcome.

Some movements lend themselves better than others, but to throw away stalwart movements like squats and deadlifts is nothing more than a publicity stunt. Sure, if the athlete has massive limitations and one-legged movements are ALL he can do, then I'm all for it, but I'll be damned if I teach a young athlete or an uncoordinated lifter how to perform a movement on ONE leg, rather than two.

Now to those that disregard all one-legged movements; again a knee-jerk reaction to the other side of the spectrum. These lifts do have a place – not necessarily in replacement of bigger lifts – but when done correctly and with a full range of movement, they offer a lot of benefits, namely flexibility in the hips.

For many, a one-legged squat or lunge offers a tremendous weighted stretch to the hip flexors, something that's much needed in athletes. In conjunction with a solid squat program, you now have the best of both worlds.

Whatever you choose to believe, just understand that the industry is full of people who want to ruffle some feathers and get people talking about them – any publicity is good publicity. Taking a ridiculous stand against something that is easily dissectible with common sense will only work against you.
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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby Will on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:16 pm

Oh I just came across it on another forum - thought it might have already been touched on - can't see me giving up squats though either way!
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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby health4ni on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:19 pm

Nah.

imo do both. Squat heavy. Then do unilateral leg work to help actively stretch the leg & hip musculature and keep balanced, flexible and mobile for long term health.
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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby Will on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:22 pm

That's what I do anyway. Squats, and the some isolated leg work, often using leg press, but lunges and other such things too. Lots of hip and glute stretches at home too!
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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby health4ni on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:24 pm

Cool. Unilateral leg work with the aforementioned benefits comes from not using machines though. Split Squats, Lunges (reverse, walking), rear-foot elevated, front-foot elevated, both-feet elevated, 1-leg RDLs etc etc
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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby Will on Mon Jan 31, 2011 10:36 pm

I like the leg press purely for the weight you can load up on them.

I do SLDLS, lunges, step ups and the rest. Not as much as you're offering though! :D
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Re: Don't squat!!!

Postby Dtlv74 on Tue Feb 01, 2011 12:18 am

Unilateral as well as the compounds for me... always include both in any routine :)
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