[quote="ParaManiac"]Thanks for the encouraging comments guys,much appreciated,however,i think i'm gonna have to up the cals a little if i want to make the extra gains i desire,they are coming,as my back testifies,but damn it's a slow process!

My problem is losing condition,which i can do very easily,i get to a point and my head goes! then the carbs get cut again!


Forget about your condition for a bit!
you wont get 'out of shape' not compared to your average bloke on the street!
just put up with it for a few months and im sure when you see how fast the gains have come along with your training it'l have been worth it. Just look at your pics now...you know you can get lean!
not its time to get BIG

ParaManiac wrote:Thanks for the encouraging comments guys,much appreciated,however,i think i'm gonna have to up the cals a little if i want to make the extra gains i desire,they are coming,as my back testifies,but damn it's a slow process!

My problem is losing condition,which i can do very easily,i get to a point and my head goes! then the carbs get cut again!

I know the answer is biting the bullet and going with it,i've just got to convince myself!

No journal Pingu,being pretty hopeless,this is about as much as i can manage

Do you do any cardio when you bulk to keep you tight? You could just start off adding cals to breaky and PWO if you know you have to have lean gains. I must of seen your diet before but I forget, what ratio's do you use for bulking?

Craig wrote:

ParaManiac wrote:Thanks for the encouraging comments guys,much appreciated,however,i think i'm gonna have to up the cals a little if i want to make the extra gains i desire,they are coming,as my back testifies,but damn it's a slow process!

My problem is losing condition,which i can do very easily,i get to a point and my head goes! then the carbs get cut again!

I know the answer is biting the bullet and going with it,i've just got to convince myself!

No journal Pingu,being pretty hopeless,this is about as much as i can manage

Do you do any cardio when you bulk to keep you tight? You could just start off adding cals to breaky and PWO if you know you have to have lean gains. I must of seen your diet before but I forget, what ratio's do you use for bulking?

Now,there's the thing Craig! I've never bulked as such and never really stuck to ratio's,i may add another carb meal as well as pad out the PWO carbs,but generally i don't stray too far as when the fat starts appearing i back off!

I know exactly the problem,and constantly offer advice to others stating it,i just need to practice it myself,it's a mental barrier more than anything! I've been your classic "maintenance trainer" for far too long - Rob has helped give me a kick up the ar5e(thanks mate!) so things are gonna change

Cardio is done as and when the mirror tells me

Recently started training heavier which in itself has led to a demand for more cals so we'll see where it takes me

good stuff!
with your commitment to training and diet, along with your knowledge you'd never stray to the extremes of bulking up for the sakes of it like some people, who end up making huge gains, most of which are fat!

Cheers Rob,looking forward to Wed,provided the back has recovered

ParaManiac wrote:Cheers Rob,looking forward to Wed,provided the back has recovered

same here, hopefully the back will be fine, it wasnt too bad last week and we've had the extra day this week so all should be good.

Para without dought you could get show ready you obviously have the iron will.Maybe add a few more carbs in slowley and see what happens. Whats the worst that could happen

SCOTT GALTON wrote:Para without dought you could get show ready

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SCOTT GALTON wrote:Para without dought you could get show ready you obviously have the iron will.Maybe add a few more carbs in slowley and see what happens. Whats the worst that could happen

Cheers Scott and Pingu,your comments mean alot!

I'll be taking your advice

Couple of progress? pics from today




I think my arms and shoulders have come on a bit,my weight is upto 76kg so its gone somewhere? Oh and i'm well aware that ghost white is not the "in" colour!

def your arms have also you back is looking good!

looking good dude, shame you cant sneak into the womens changing rooms, they have double mirrors in there

julesm wrote:looking good dude, shame you cant sneak into the womens changing rooms, they have double mirrors in there

Cheers guys.

Aye,you're right,and lighting is better,however Sunday has turned into ladies day recently,so difficult to get in there!

your arms have definately got bigger, your back looks a little thicker as well
you must be doing something right
my guess is....bagels!!

Robisco wrote:your arms have definately got bigger, your back looks a little thicker as well
you must be doing something right
my guess is....bagels!!

and the Chicken Tikka madras'

Good improvement, perhaps when the sun shines you could lie in it as that would really help show off your muscle!

simon m wrote:Good improvement, perhaps when the sun shines you could lie in it as that would really help show off your muscle!

Sun?? as is very evident,don't get much of that tup North!

ParaManiac wrote:

simon m wrote:Good improvement, perhaps when the sun shines you could lie in it as that would really help show off your muscle!

Sun?? as is very evident,don't get much of that tup North!

Manchester, the rainy city!

Para looks like you have added some quality size rather than just putting on mass for mass sake.. Top stuff. Also your as pale as me so that make me feel better. Do you have plans to do a show?

SCOTT GALTON wrote:Para looks like you have added some quality size rather than just putting on mass for mass sake.. Top stuff. Also your as pale as me so that make me feel better. Do you have plans to do a show?

Thanks scott,i've introduced more carbs and been training heavier these past few months which,along with training with Rob(isco) is working well.

As for a show,not sure,imo,i still need another 4 or 5kg before dieting so a way off yet,legs also need plenty more w ork

well it working mate so keep blasting. Are you pain free now in the shoulder?

SCOTT GALTON wrote:well it working mate so keep blasting. Are you pain free now in the shoulder?

Yeah,body is pretty good at the mo,injury really held me back in 2008 Just the first couple of sets are mildly uncomfortable on pressing then i'm fine.I stick to inclines and the occasional decline moves- Perform prehab exercises and above all else - Stay away from flat bench!!

I dont like flat benching mate. Feel it in my delts and not in my chest. So why bother

Hello people,not posted on here in a while(although i do browse quite often ) so i thought i'd post a couple of pics to show where i'm up to and compare with last year,when training was going very well.

Training is not quite as intense as it was for a variety of reasons,although still training 3 day week,cut cardio,diet still very good(eating more carbs now) and just looking for a bit of critique to see if i'm on the right track,gone backwards or stalled? cheers and thanks for looking

Very good shape and condition Para, you could do with a tan though mate!