Craig wrote:

kp1512 wrote:

Craig wrote:how did you lose 30% strength while cutting?

as I didnt care about it and went extreme with cardio and shit.

I guess it depends on your makeup, I gain muscle slowly but lose fat with ease so tend to bulk in the extreme and diet carefully. Same end result I guess.

Hmm i went upto 1.5 hours a day 5 days a week with the 10x3 - so it was a lot and only on 2700 cals. Totally expected if Im honest. But hey - itll come back in 1/5 of the time

kp1512 wrote:bitch plz! if you lost 30% strength itd be a fucking miracle! you cant lose what you dont have!

Wigger please. At least I fucking train. You just sit on your ass and eat fried chicken all day long.

Rilla wrote:

kp1512 wrote:bitch plz! if you lost 30% strength itd be a fucking miracle! you cant lose what you dont have!

Wigger please. At least I fucking train. You just sit on your ass and eat fried chicken all day long.

whats your point? tell me something I dont know!

17th March

Back/Bi'

Back

Pulldowns - palms out shoulder width - 41 on Selector - 10 x 3
DB Rows over the rack - 50kg - 3 x 10
Hammer Pull Downs - 50 on selector - 3 x 10
Chins - BW - 2 x 10

Biceps
BB Curls - 45kg - 3 x 12

HIIT - 30 sec all out - 60 sec walk x 8

To be fair, Kp has probably lost more strength than many bicep boys have in total. There's a lad who lives accross the road from me who has been training for at least three years but still hasn't got around to training his legs yet... he's 'prioritising his arms and chest' for a while. I asked him what he benches the other day and he told me 40kg. Not bad for three years of progression

Whereas KP has been going heavy on the BW chins.

Richard wrote:Whereas KP has been going heavy on the BW chins.

PMSL

Good to see you back on it again. Not lost too much strength all things considered.

21dt March 2010

Snuck in a quick Chest / Shoulders this morning as for my sins spending the day in Crawley

Chest
DB BP - 44kg - 10x3
Life Extension Flyes - 55 on the selector - 3 x 10
Between Bench Press Ups - 2 x 10

Shoulders
DB Shoulder Press - 38kg - 2 x 10
Standing Shoulder Laterals - 22kg - 3 x 5
FST 7 - 14kg x 7

HIIT - 30sec / 60 sec x 5

kp1512 wrote:bitch plz! if you lost 30% strength itd be a fucking miracle! you cant lose what you dont have!

PMSL. KP is on te fight back. That was a beauty. SIg material

Rab wrote:

kp1512 wrote:bitch plz! if you lost 30% strength itd be a fucking miracle! you cant lose what you dont have!

PMSL. KP is on te fight back. That was a beauty. SIg material

Definitely!

Good to see things are changing for the better. Personal life shite can really feck you up.

And o course a new journal makes it easier for me to follow than have to read 100 pages to catch up.

23rd March

Late one last nite - 10pm and had the area to myself barring a few old boys

Back
Pulldowns - Stack - Big Jump but felt strong - shoulder width grip palms facing towards - 3 x 10
Rack Deads - 10 sets x 8 - 3 Plates a Side
Rows - 50kg - 3 x 15

Biceps
BB Curls - 45kg - 3 x 10
FST on the Hammer MTS Single Arm - 10 sets of 7

Notes - Rack deads felt good - needed to get back into these in a big way so decided to do a number of them to get back in the groove. FST working well if I can be honest - really has made a near immediate difference to armage in as little as 3 sessions. prob glyco and rebound i guess

10pm.

Kp you are hardcore.

my gym will be 24/7! wana do a job gota do it yourself these days!

Why cant these places open 24 hours!

Rab wrote:10pm.

Kp you are hardcore.

Well he has to go somewhere after KFC closes for the night!

There's a 24/7 gym not far from me in Guildford that just allows swipe access to use and is only £15 a month. I'm pretty sure it's not manned during the late hours so not sure how that works with regards to liability insurance in the place.

Alex wrote:There's a 24/7 gym not far from me in Guildford that just allows swipe access to use and is only £15 a month. I'm pretty sure it's not manned during the late hours so not sure how that works with regards to liability insurance in the place.

If it's unmammned it's in breach of health and safety regs and insuance wouldn't apply to the owners, so anyone who was injured would get paid out and the owners would then be sued by insurers, or if insurers wanted they couldjust void the policy and no one gets paid.

not if the T&C and underwriting at application are changed.

Then you are looking at difference of UK and EU Law and how well they covered themselves.

Plus insurers would cover if their requirements are met.....as 24 Hour Gyms are increasing..although maybe there manned?

kp1512 wrote:not if the T&C and underwriting at application are changed.

Then you are looking at difference of UK and EU Law and how well they covered themselves.

Plus insurers would cover if their requirements are met.....as 24 Hour Gyms are increasing..although maybe there manned?

You cannot contract out of liability in T&C's for injury, it's a common mistake that many have fallen foul of.

You are also contravening health & safety at work regulations as wel and you cannot contract out on those.

simon m wrote:

kp1512 wrote:not if the T&C and underwriting at application are changed.

Then you are looking at difference of UK and EU Law and how well they covered themselves.

Plus insurers would cover if their requirements are met.....as 24 Hour Gyms are increasing..although maybe there manned?

You cannot contract out of liability in T&C's for injury, it's a common mistake that many have fallen foul of.

You are also contravening health & safety at work regulations as wel and you cannot contract out on those.

not even for a Waiver? Surely if you waiver the risk as part of membership that would comply?

kp1512 wrote:

simon m wrote:

kp1512 wrote:not if the T&C and underwriting at application are changed.

Then you are looking at difference of UK and EU Law and how well they covered themselves.

Plus insurers would cover if their requirements are met.....as 24 Hour Gyms are increasing..although maybe there manned?

You cannot contract out of liability in T&C's for injury, it's a common mistake that many have fallen foul of.

You are also contravening health & safety at work regulations as wel and you cannot contract out on those.

not even for a Waiver? Surely if you waiver the risk as part of membership that would comply?

Not allowed mate, doesn't stand in Court as you cannot overide the common law duty to provide a safe environment and part of safety is having staff on hand when people are doing something which could rise to injruy, property damage or death.

That's one of the problems with train stations being unmanned as well, but the Government has Crown Immunity, but you could still claim against the operators for failure to provide a safe environment. tbh, it's a goldmine for solicitors!

and how does that relate to EU Law now having more collective power than UK Law? ie can it get thrown out?

kp1512 wrote:and how does that relate to EU Law now having more collective power than UK Law? ie can it get thrown out?

The thing is that European Law is even more bloody left wing mate - no personal responsibility, just strict liability in many states - nightmare!

This place is 24 hrs and only uses CCTV outside of staffed hours: http://www.thegymgroup.com/faq.asp

ollie wrote:This place is 24 hrs and only uses CCTV outside of staffed hours: http://www.thegymgroup.com/faq.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Interesting, I wonder what would happen if there was a serious injruy which could be shown to be worse for not being staffed. HSE could close the place down and bring criminal charges