Everyone takes gear. Im amazed all the time

The care-taker guy at our gym who i didnt even know trained really was telling me last night he's just finished a course and is on maintenance just now.

If i was getting headaches from something then i wouldnt be taking it FBG. You are always taking a trade-off with regards to health and you have to have some sort of internal line in the sand. High blood pressure and sore heads all the time is over it imo.

The water will mostly be to do with a poor diet rather than the dbol so much.

Fool.

Btw db0ls my fave gear. N0 water and amazing vascularity.

FBG sort your self out, eat better and train heavy. You do not need gear.

cleaver wrote:Come on folks. Stop the FBG hating please. He will do the Dbol irrespective of what we say so we might as well let him get on with it.

As far as I can see I'm the only one who has actually attempted to answer the questions in the OP.

Nope everyone has told him that his shit diet caused the sides to be fair.

I do find it strange that everyone has decided that I have a bad diet and/or bad training routine, without actually knowing.

All the blood test results were normal. Liver values were fine, kidneys fine, urine fine, the Doc couldn't explain why I got the headaches.

Anyway, thank you to Cleaver for being adult about it. I researched Celery Extract and decided to buy some.

Leopard - spots - change - never

case closed your honour

FatboyGinger wrote:the Doc couldn't explain why I got the headaches

Presumably this was the same doctor that took your BP?

Surely you can explain that yourself?

FatboyGinger wrote:I do find it strange that everyone has decided that I have a bad diet and/or bad training routine, without actually knowing.

All the blood test results were normal. Liver values were fine, kidneys fine, urine fine, the Doc couldn't explain why I got the headaches.

Anyway, thank you to Cleaver for being adult about it. I researched Celery Extract and decided to buy some.

How about for the next cycle you sell or give away the dbol and buy something different and more mild to hee how you fair?

The shitter your diet the more water you end up bloated with. In 4 weeks how much of that 6kg do you suppose was actual lean tissue?

Try some var instead.

Rab wrote:

FatboyGinger wrote:I do find it strange that everyone has decided that I have a bad diet and/or bad training routine, without actually knowing.

All the blood test results were normal. Liver values were fine, kidneys fine, urine fine, the Doc couldn't explain why I got the headaches.

Anyway, thank you to Cleaver for being adult about it. I researched Celery Extract and decided to buy some.

How about for the next cycle you sell or give away the dbol and buy something different and more mild to hee how you fair?

The shitter your diet the more water you end up bloated with. In 4 weeks how much of that 6kg do you suppose was actual lean tissue?

I actually think there was quite a bit, because I'm sitting at 81kg now. I actually got up to 83.5kg but lost 2.5 in the PCT
I may try epidrol instead, I'm not 100% set on dbol. I don't like needles, but I wouldn't definitely rule out injectables.

And Alex, I am a poor student, I can't afford Var!

cleaver wrote:Come on folks. Stop the FBG hating please. He will do the Dbol irrespective of what we say so we might as well let him get on with it.

As far as I can see I'm the only one who has actually attempted to answer the questions in the OP.

My post was serious. Ahhh who cares...what is them steroidz things anyways?

If money is a concern, then buy a pair of green shorts and a blue t-shirt and spend the rest on food.

You could probably do Var at a similar cost with the raw powder.

If you're a student you should concentrate on spending your money on food.

It WILL give you better results than spending your money on orals and compromising on your diet.

Why don't you show us what your diet looks like (honestly - what actually into your mouth each day, not what you think you should be eating), instead of dismissing us as just being condescending?

FatboyGinger wrote:

Rab wrote:

FatboyGinger wrote:I do find it strange that everyone has decided that I have a bad diet and/or bad training routine, without actually knowing.

All the blood test results were normal. Liver values were fine, kidneys fine, urine fine, the Doc couldn't explain why I got the headaches.

Anyway, thank you to Cleaver for being adult about it. I researched Celery Extract and decided to buy some.

How about for the next cycle you sell or give away the dbol and buy something different and more mild to hee how you fair?

The shitter your diet the more water you end up bloated with. In 4 weeks how much of that 6kg do you suppose was actual lean tissue?

I actually think there was quite a bit, because I'm sitting at 81kg now. I actually got up to 83.5kg but lost 2.5 in the PCT
I may try epidrol instead, I'm not 100% set on dbol. I don't like needles, but I wouldn't definitely rule out injectables.

And Alex, I am a poor student, I can't afford Var!

At very best 2kg of that 6kg would have been good weight. Thats at best imo

ollie wrote:If you're a student you should concentrate on spending your money on food.

It WILL give you better results than spending your money on orals and compromising on your diet.

Why don't you show us what your diet looks like (honestly - what actually into your mouth each day, not what you think you should be eating), instead of dismissing us as just being condescending?

To be fair, I am still living at home so I don't actually pay anything towards food.
I have looked into buying the var powder, but my scales only measure to 0.1g increments, not nearly enough! Not sure how to rectify this but if I found a solution, I would certainly consider using var as a powder.

And for an example of 'condescending', read the post below yours. I started at 75kg, went up to 83.5kg, then back down to 81kg, where I am currently. Yet apparently I am still holding 4kg extra of water+fat (even though I finished the cycle months ago). Hmm

I am not dismissing your answers, I am considering them and making a judgement on them.

FatboyGinger wrote:

ollie wrote:If you're a student you should concentrate on spending your money on food.

It WILL give you better results than spending your money on orals and compromising on your diet.

Why don't you show us what your diet looks like (honestly - what actually into your mouth each day, not what you think you should be eating), instead of dismissing us as just being condescending?

To be fair, I am still living at home so I don't actually pay anything towards food.
I have looked into buying the var powder, but my scales only measure to 0.1g increments, not nearly enough! Not sure how to rectify this but if I found a solution, I would certainly consider using var as a powder.

And for an example of 'condescending', read the post below yours. I started at 75kg, went up to 83.5kg, then back down to 81kg, where I am currently. Yet apparently I am still holding 4kg extra of water+fat (even though I finished the cycle months ago). Hmm

I am not dismissing your answers, I am considering them and making a judgement on them.

I'd say anavar powder is a much better option if you insist on going down that route.

You're living at home and pay nothing towards food - so how much influence do you have over what you eat? What do you actually eat?

Buy some different scales? You can get digi ones that measure to 1mg easy enough for under £10.

Alex wrote:Buy some different scales? You can get digi ones that measure to 1mg easy enough for under £10.

I've looked into this, just called my source, says he's not sure he can actually get the var powder.
Still, I'm not planning to do any cycles in the next month, so there's no rush. Looks like a good option if my source can get hold of some.

+1 for green shorts.

Also I've heard good things about tasers.

burningnun wrote:+1 for green shorts.

Also I've heard good things about tasers.

I was part of the double blind study of Tasers - that stuff rockss, although I tend to now short out electrical equipment

Ah yes, my revolutionary Taser technique.

I may run another 12 week cycle and then cruise with a Tens machine.

Alex wrote:then cruise with a Tens machine.

Only works is you lick the end of one of these before training