finally joined the dark side after along time reading up on it i got all my pct's sorted nolva clomid hcg and bought some test400 off a differnet lad who i got my pcts off just wondering how long i would feel the effects as no increase in sexdrive after nearly 48hrs? or any other signs thoughts welcome cheers would like to know if ive been conned or its just not kicked in yet?

7-10 days if its Test Enth / Test Cyp in there as well

Might be worth kickstarting with 30mg d/bol per day.

cheers ofr the replys guys
d bols a thought only havnt got any liver support atm
its
zenik
200mg of tests cyp and decanate each i cant even walk its that painful now i heard 400 was bad for the pain and didnt hurt at all till 24hrs after

CHEEF!! wrote:cheers ofr the replys guys
d bols a thought only havnt got any liver support atm
its
zenik
200mg of tests cyp and decanate each i cant even walk its that painful now i heard 400 was bad for the pain and didnt hurt at all till 24hrs after

if you havent done it before it can be extremely painful for upto a week,

so its should take 7-10days to get the effects of it including sex drive etc as well as gains? just paranoid because i was under the impression you would feel the effects straight away????

no - only fast acting like Test prop in the first 48 hours

ok mate much appreciated for your help

I recon a good few weeks to really get the sex drive mate. takes time to build up.

Andy, get some Liv52 DS if you want to run Orals.

Rab wrote:I recon a good few weeks to really get the sex drive mate. takes time to build up.

Took me a good 20-25 years, but boy is it fierce now. Wow.

Alex wrote:Andy, get some Liv52 DS if you want to run Orals.

n0 d0nt they made y enxymes hgher.

Max wrote:

Alex wrote:Andy, get some Liv52 DS if you want to run Orals.

n0 d0nt they made y enxymes hgher.

You sure? Why would it do that?

this is something thats being said alot of late and I can onlyassume its just a follow on

Liv 52 DS WILL increase values in the first 2-4 weeks as this is due to the active in Liv52 working - after that [and the regneration phase] they will reduce substantially.

I would say thats just as much to do with with the initial double dose for the first 4 weeks before settling into the daily maintanance dose. If you use it constantly nayway then I can't see an issue.

Alex wrote:I would say thats just as much to do with with the initial double dose for the first 4 weeks before settling into the daily maintanance dose. If you use it constantly nayway then I can't see an issue.

totally - its a long term thing at least 3months ideally year round

For me it's all year now.

kp1512 wrote:this is something thats being said alot of late and I can onlyassume its just a follow on

Liv 52 DS WILL increase values in the first 2-4 weeks as this is due to the active in Liv52 working - after that [and the regneration phase] they will reduce substantially.

IME they do more harm than good, blood values go up, my exema flares like crazy, same with milk thistle.

Craig wrote:

kp1512 wrote:this is something thats being said alot of late and I can onlyassume its just a follow on

Liv 52 DS WILL increase values in the first 2-4 weeks as this is due to the active in Liv52 working - after that [and the regneration phase] they will reduce substantially.

IME they do more harm than good, blood values go up, my exema flares like crazy, same with milk thistle.

You do have a few intollerances and allergies though so maybe more sensitive than most?

I've not had any obvious problems with liver support supps myself but then that doesn't mean that they're not foing harm I guess.

ye I'm alllergic to shed loads of stuff, so it could be a reason.