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What are your thoughts on this

Postby kp1512 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:09 am

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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby Rab on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:40 am

cancer is more typically triggered by a combination of the following:

Nutritional deficiencies
Toxins in your environment
Emotional conflicts
Hormonal imbalances


I was under the impression that only 1/3 of cancer problems are lifestyle related! this suggests otherwise.

I dont know whether i buy into allot of the stuff on that site to be honest!
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby kp1512 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:49 am

Rab

Youll notice a few things...this is NU's source! lol :D

But that aside, Mercola is a VERY intelligent cookie on alot of things...his Cancer stuff is prety much spot on, in my opinion. But obv there are things that are contradictary......

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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby health4ni on Thu Mar 20, 2008 11:59 am

For some reason "normal" doctors don't like herbals. I just don't think they keep up with current research. There's lot of evidence showing how good certain herbs at teh right concentrations are very effective at combating a number of conditions; cancer included.

It's a shame that this perception continues today.

One reason for it is that a herb cannot be patented. So if a drug company can't patent a herb why bother to plough money into researching it's effectiveness? None at all, cos then all their rivals will start selling it.

Synthetic drugs will always been the mainstay of modern medicine cos the medical profession gets money from pharmaceutical companies... and they run double-blind blah blah blah studies showing it's effectiveness... when something completely natural could do as good a job or even better but cos no study (cos no funding) then no support from medical community.

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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby Canuck on Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:05 pm

Here are some of the things the medical junkies won't tell you:

- Around 7,500 people in the U.S. die each year from bleeding caused by both prescription and over-the-counter non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drugs (NSAIDs) such as aspirin and ibuprofen.

- In addition to the problems with bleeding, thousands of NSAID users die from kidney and liver damage, high blood pressure, and the medication interactions with other drugs, among other causes. A conservative estimate for overall deaths directly attributable to NSAIDs in the U.S. in 1998 was 16,500 people.

- Tobacco, Alcohol, Drugs Kill 7 Million a Year

Tobacco, alcohol and illicit drugs prematurely kill about seven million people worldwide each year and researchers say that the number is increasing rapidly.

Tobacco was the number one killer addiction in 2000, responsible for 4.9 million deaths or 71% of the total drug-related deaths – that’s over one million more per year since 1990.

The health of nonsmokers is also adversely affected by smoking. Tobacco use by women during pregnancy causes morbidity associated with low-birth weight babies, preterm deliveries, and approximately 1,700 deaths among infants and children under 1 year of age annually.

Passive cigarette smoke exposure causes an estimated 3,000 lung cancer deaths among nonsmokers each year. Smoking is also the most important risk factor for fatal household fires, resulting in 1,400 deaths annually. In children, passively inhaled tobacco smoke increases incidence of asthma, lower respiratory tract infections, and middle ear effusions. About 1.8 million deaths were attributable to the use of alcohol, about 26% of all drug-related deaths.

- Illicit drugs caused about 223,000 deaths, or 3% of all drug-related deaths.

- Alcohol in the United States . . .

Under age Drinkers consume almost 20% of total alcohol consumption in the US.

Total deaths per year from alcohol related diseases – 120,000. 329 deaths a day. 13 deaths every single hour. A person in the US dies every 5 minutes of every day of the year due to alcohol.

Total deaths per year from crashes involving alcohol – 18,000.

Total teen deaths per year from crashes involving alcohol – 2400.

An alcohol-related motor vehicle crash kills someone every 33 minutes.

An alcohol-related motor vehicle crash nonfatally injures someone every two minutes.

- Obesity

In the US, obesity causes at least 300,000 deaths, and healthcare costs of American obese adults amount to about $100 billion.

Child Drug Methylphenidate (Ritalin) - Popular and Dangerous

In 2001 in the US there were 1,478 Ritalin-related emergency room visits that were reported. There is no telling how many Ritalin-related emergency room visits were not reported. And these were children.

With today’s “Take a drug for anything.” attitude, parents are seeking prescription crutches to compensate for their lack of parenting. This irresponsibility has led to doctors prescribing Ritalin to children like it’s baby aspirin.

Now Ritalin has become a popular recreational drug in high school students and use is even reported among grade school students.

Now tell me, why doesn’t this create a concern within the FDA and the media?

- An Estimated 90,000 Patients Die Each Year from “Hospital Incurred” Infections

Most infections are from contact with health workers (doctors, nurses, technicians). These are preventable deaths. 90,000 people die each year because of un-sterile conditions during their stay at a hospital. Primarily from unwashed hands!

Am I the only one shocked by this number and this major cause of death? And why is it buried by the media and media and medical profession.

- Medical Errors Kill 98,000 Each Year

The Institute of Medicine estimates that errors by doctors and health care professionals kill 98,000 men women and children each year and cost as much as $29 billion. These numbers are unquestionably much higher as it's believed that only 10% of medical errors actually get reported.

- Killer Peanuts?

Each year 150 people die from allergic reactions to nuts. Should the government ban nuts? It would save at least 150 lives a year.

- Deadly Aspirin

There are 16,000 deaths a year related to aspirin misuse. It’s available everywhere. It’s over the counter and there is no age restriction on buying it. 16,000 deaths each year and no one would ever dream of banning the sale of aspirin.

--> Feel free to add to the list?

What is/are the solutions?

1. Prevention through regular exercise and right nutrition
2. In the future we will see physiotherapists working along with elderly, diseased, or disabled individuals to optimize their health with exercise (I can guarantee this, as my research is about this very topic)
3. Lack of Exercise & Nutrition are the key culprits to a pathetic meager immobilie and sedentary lifestyle, requiring doctors to prove that people need to be on concoctions of drugs to save their behinds for however many disabled and poor quality adults or even youthful (diabetes is showing up in people in their 30's!) life.

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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby kp1512 on Thu Mar 20, 2008 1:11 pm

Very good post there mate!

and yet they banned Ephedrine HCL for 2 deaths...and they bloody OD'd on it! Numerous other examples! Bastards!

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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby Tartulho on Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:50 pm

health4ni wrote:For some reason "normal" doctors don't like herbals. I just don't think they keep up with current research. There's lot of evidence showing how good certain herbs at teh right concentrations are very effective at combating a number of conditions; cancer included.

It's a shame that this perception continues today.

So true, the "regular" doctors tend to decline more natural options (or non-pharma companys related). I was pretty much surprised when my wife was told to by a doctor to take Valerian and Magnesium (5-HTP was also brought up to discussion) instead of the usual depression drugs (like fluoxetin). But this is a rare finding on the medical community.
All that I say is hypothetically speaking and I do not condone the use of illegal substances. You should also eat your vegetables and use high SPF sunscreen :roll:
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby julesm on Fri Mar 21, 2008 9:17 pm

this is v true- however i have come across some younger doctors who actually practice homeopathy in general practice. i think the negative attitudes stems from the fact that herbals dont have the same levels of regulation as pharma, nor do they go through the same rigorous procedural bodies such as the EMEA, MHRA etc
i'm open minded, as long as it does the trick, i dont care herbal or pharm
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby Rilla on Fri Mar 21, 2008 10:22 pm

health4ni wrote:For some reason "normal" doctors don't like herbals. I just don't think they keep up with current research. There's lot of evidence showing how good certain herbs at teh right concentrations are very effective at combating a number of conditions; cancer included.


It's just not their field.. I just got off the phone with one of my best friends a couple of hours ago, he's on the last 3 months of medical school, and I always talk to him about whatever I take. I mentioned Rhodiola to him and he said "well I don't know anything about that" and then we joked about prozac being the only mood enhancer he knew...

It's pretty simple really, they're not against it per se, they just don't know much about it.
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby health4ni on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:45 pm

I agree. They don't get taught about it. But then if they don't get taught about it they will recommend you don't use such things.

My doc asked me on my first meeting not to use herbals. I just agreed as at the time I wasn't (even though I knew I would). I couldn't be asked arguing with him as at that time I didn't know enough to have a good conversation about it.

Some docs are more up to date for sure. But it's mainly who they get taught by. Same in the fitness industry. I don't blame the Fitness Instructors or many PTs for teaching techniques and performing exercises that are plain wrong or just not effective at all; it's what they believe having been told by their teacher. Unfortunately, most of those people don't keep up with modern research &/or programme prescription to get the results. However, that allows the better people (me I'd like to think) to shine that much brighter. Finally word seems to be spreading in my gym after a good few months that not only am I a good PT that I also LOOK like I know what I'm doing. None of the other PTs give that physical impression.

IMO in my business you gotta walk the walk as well as talk it <-- off topic rant again by me lol
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby kp1512 on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:50 pm

health4ni wrote:I agree. They don't get taught about it. But then if they don't get taught about it they will recommend you don't use such things.

My doc asked me on my first meeting not to use herbals. I just agreed as at the time I wasn't (even though I knew I would). I couldn't be asked arguing with him as at that time I didn't know enough to have a good conversation about it.

Some docs are more up to date for sure. But it's mainly who they get taught by. Same in the fitness industry. I don't blame the Fitness Instructors or many PTs for teaching techniques and performing exercises that are plain wrong or just not effective at all; it's what they believe having been told by their teacher. Unfortunately, most of those people don't keep up with modern research &/or programme prescription to get the results. However, that allows the better people (me I'd like to think) to shine that much brighter. Finally word seems to be spreading in my gym after a good few months that not only am I a good PT that I also LOOK like I know what I'm doing. None of the other PTs give that physical impression.

IMO in my business you gotta walk the walk as well as talk it <-- off topic rant again by me lol


You make a good point, and I totally agree..its all about talking and walking!..Many people hate to be called out.....but personally...if you havent achieved what you preach...then it surely cant give you credibility.
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby health4ni on Fri Mar 21, 2008 11:55 pm

I've had 3 new clients this week. 1 cos he saw me training and thought I knew what I was doing; then overhead some guys in the changing room talking about me (I can only presume, and hope, it was good). The 2nd has seen me train for a while and knows what I do works.

I'm my own biggest selling point.

Why anyone would want to be trained by someone who is not in shape etc is beyond me.
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby kp1512 on Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:03 am

health4ni wrote:I've had 3 new clients this week. 1 cos he saw me training and thought I knew what I was doing; then overhead some guys in the changing room talking about me (I can only presume, and hope, it was good). The 2nd has seen me train for a while and knows what I do works.

I'm my own biggest selling point.

Why anyone would want to be trained by someone who is not in shape etc is beyond me.


But this is why PT can be a very rewarding career!. Ill give you my Gym for example..its a commercial David Lloyd run place.....has around 8 PT's, ranging from what appears 21 to 35. ALL, bar 1 (so its not all is it then!) are out of shape, fat, skinny, and just doing it as it was a job and they probably liked the sound of it, or just wanted pussy, if I can be honest.

Now on the other end of the spectrum, there is a Local BB who also is a PT that has started there...he gets custom based on his seminar that he did, and his size and condition.....BUT who do you think will get more people referred by the Gym?...NOT the BB I assure it ...wierd politics but all about money but thats a diff topic!
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby health4ni on Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:10 am

It's all about reputation.
Reputation of your own physical state; thus people think, well yeah he clearly knows what he is doing so I'm gonna use him.
And the other reputation factor combined with it about getting results. This being the biggest factor in all honesty. People talk and will say that they look the way do cos their trainer is so good.

Anyway, if I can nail both then I'm sorted; seem to be getting there.
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Re: What are your thoughts on this

Postby Bison on Sat Mar 22, 2008 12:39 am

health4ni wrote:I've had 3 new clients this week. 1 cos he saw me training and thought I knew what I was doing; then overhead some guys in the changing room talking about me (I can only presume, and hope, it was good). The 2nd has seen me train for a while and knows what I do works.

I'm my own biggest selling point.

Why anyone would want to be trained by someone who is not in shape etc is beyond me.

Good point.

The other week I was in the changing room in my gym and one of the PT's was there writing something in a book and just out of curiosity I started asking him a few questions. How much he charged, was he busy, usual stuff and instead of just chatting back he immediately just launched into his sales pitch and offering me his card, telling me he'd write me a program and diet, etc...

Kinda bugged me because I'm obviously in better shape than he is, or ever will be with all his swiss ball antics ;) Why the hell does he think would I pay this whopper to train me?

If he'd had the physique (like I know you do from pics) then I wouldn't have thought anything of it but he wasn't muscular, low body-fat or anything, apart from the tracksuit you wouldn't even know he trained!!
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