I'm half thinking after ditching conventional Deadlifts for a while and replacing with Rack DL's and RDL's.

Reasoning is my lower back takes a fair bit of abuse from ATG Squats, conventional Deads, RDL's and BOR's where I have to Dead big singles to get the bar into starting position.

Also my lower back is pretty strong and quick thick so I think Racks will target middle/upper more specifically anbd give good development.

I think the combination of Racks and RDL's would compliment each other well while the BOR singles would keep me doing full heavy DL's anyway.

Fair enough or being a pussy?

Alex wrote:I'm half thinking after ditching conventional Deadlifts for a while and replacing with Rack DL's and RDL's.

Reasoning is my lower back takes a fair bit of abuse from ATG Squats, conventional Deads, RDL's and BOR's where I have to Dead big singles to get the bar into starting position.

I think the combination of Racks and RDL's would compliment each other well while the BOR singles would keep me doing full heavy DL's anyway.

Fair enough or being a p-ssy?

Mate thats not a bad idea

Ive dropped FULL DL during blasts for Rack DLs for the whole of this year.

Mainly because I use DL for my Back..and not my legs and hams....I let my leg day do that...plus Rack deads just are awesome for the entire back..and allows me to really focus on targetiing my back..rather then worry about clearing it first and then working the back....

KP

how high should the rack be roughly for someone of my height (5 foot 11 / 6 foot)

Rab wrote:how high should the rack be roughly for someone of my height (5 foot 11 / 6 foot)

For rack DL, and core back targetting....the bar, at rest, should be knee \ just below knee

KP

If my goal wasnt to powerlift, id be looking at variations as they do hammer my lower back.
A weird thing i find tho.. Doing dealifts makes my lower back ache..squatting straight after takes it away.

..in all honesty as i progress in weights, and i am actually started to see my body composition change.. i am seriously thinking about changing my goals to safeguard my long term health.

I've noticed a lot of Lower Back ache (especially driving in the car for more than an hour) and pump recently which has made me consider variations.

Hmm i dont know, full deadlifts are still a very useful exercise to do. The whole body involvement will release a good amount of GH and test. But then again as long as your still squatting heavy then maybe it's not such a bad idea.

My back personally has felt fine with deadlifts over these last 2 weeks, maybe you're doing too much volume and some exercise rotation would be useful? ie. deadlift for 4 weeks once every 3 months.

Karlos wrote:Hmm i dont know, full deadlifts are still a very useful exercise to do. The whole body involvement will release a good amount of GH and test. But then again as long as your still squatting heavy then maybe it's not such a bad idea.

My back personally has felt fine with deadlifts over these last 2 weeks, maybe you're doing too much volume and some exercise rotation would be useful? ie. deadlift for 4 weeks once every 3 months.

More than likely mate.

I may aim to rep a little higher and keep under 180kg-190kg for now (apart from BOR's).

Or a weekly rotation between Racks and Conventional.

it would be a good shout or me at the moment to keep me deadlifting with my sore achilles...shorten the ammount of stretching it has to do!

On the basis of your routine I'd ditch coventional from leg day using RDL instead.

I'd keep rack lifts for your back day once you feel the need to rotate exercises.