the kick ass high fat bitch tit club will poop their pants if they see this

Denial is not just a river in Egypt

ha ha ha awesome

I love you Cleaver.....

Ground wild sorghum is hardly comparable to processed grains of today. Find evidence of our ancestors eating cocopops, hovis best of fucking both and mr Kipling cakes. That would be interesting

I'm not pooping my pants.

Karlos wrote:Ground wild sorghum is hardly comparable to processed grains of today. Find evidence of our ancestors eating cocopops, hovis best of fucking both and mr Kipling cakes. That would be interesting

Yeah that's the key point in terms of the different effect of such foods - modern mass-processed crap is far worse and nothing like processed grains that have been hand ground and prepared in natural ways.

Is interesting though - if homosapiens did generally evolve with a higher carb diet than suspected by some then it's a big one in the face for the anti carbers, and kicks out their assertion that modern diseases are mostly due to more carbs in the diet without further consideration of how those carbs are processed - which to me is the key factor. Having said that though, humans had already been around 100,000 years before those remians are dated, so it's possible that what is found there was a very new thing for humans to be doing.

From what i've read though it makes sense that paleo man ate different foods according to where in the world he lived, and that macros would be different according to geography...so to me much of the debate about what specific diet paleo man ate is a bit retarded. The paleo diet in the northern hemisphere was primarily one of costal foods, as there was feck all to find further inland in the winter due to our climate... but humans living in subtemperate and tropical regions had access to seasonal 'inland' foods all year round, so it can hardly be assumed with any intelligence that all paleo man everywhere must have eaten the same kind of things.

I feel better than ever after switching to a diet based on good foods. If it's a good thing, eat it - regardless of macros. Works very well for me....

Is anyone still allowed to post over at Imbrainless?

Sorry I mean Myprotein

Get that one up there & just watch Nu spend hours proving he is the correct one.

Nu is a wank

Thats all i have to say

Resurrected wrote:Get that one up there & just watch Nu spend hours proving he is the correct one.

That's who it was aimed at

Him and Retard83. Oops I mean Gareth83

Let the party begin

http://forum.myprotein.co.uk/diet-nutrition/26752-paleo-diet-included-grains.html#post379422

MXD beat you to it and NU already replied with a quote from a high fat club websit by the looks of it

who cares. Hes a sad old nob and that site is shite

Balls

Never mind Pingu

It will annoy him that more than one person has posted it up so take something from that lol

Thanks Rab. You've just cheered me up. Anything to get on his nerves is a positive in my book!

Rab wrote:Never mind Pingu

It will annoy him that more than one person has posted it up so take something from that lol

I wonder if he's harvested enough man fat for his Christmas dinner of manfat and boy butter lard tarts?

Haha, once someone has a zealous belief in something there is no point arguing with them (other than to gain personal pleasure by watching their reaction)

If you post an article that in any way supports carbohydrates in the diet or in anyway knocks saturated fat he will come up with whatever he needs to 'prove' his point.
No matter what you believe there is always a way to paint it as the truth, he does so vehemently.
As far as the scientific merit of the article, no doubt humans have consumed some grains throughout their entire evolution from pre homo species.
One thing is for certain, it was never in the volume of modern agricultural societies where it is a sole staple food.

However, this does not include all forms of carbohydrate, as i have argued before there are MANY types of 'paleolithic' carbohydrate sources, except for extreme northern climates (where there is only a small amount in summer months, berries etc).
In temperate climates there have been cat-tails, tubers of all kinds, berries, internal starch stores of trees, saps, roots and buds etc.
Traditionally the females of the soceity collected these types of foods as they could keep the children safe in that environment whilst the males went out hunting game (this can be seen in pratically all hunter gatherer soceities)

I have discussed before the strong evolutionary pressure of consuming grains for 10,000 years of 'agricultural revolution', but this is often ignored by people who follow the 'false' high fat steak mince, butter, cheese, eggs and bacon 'paleolithic' diet, they don't have a clue what they are talking about.

Pain wrote:Haha, once someone has a zealous belief in something there is no point arguing with them (other than to gain personal pleasure by watching their reaction)

This was precisely my motivation!

Pingu wrote:

Pain wrote:Haha, once someone has a zealous belief in something there is no point arguing with them (other than to gain personal pleasure by watching their reaction)

This was precisely my motivation!

Oh i do it all the time over there, it's so easy, but am tiring of it.

Pain wrote:

Pingu wrote:

Pain wrote:Haha, once someone has a zealous belief in something there is no point arguing with them (other than to gain personal pleasure by watching their reaction)

This was precisely my motivation!

Oh i do it all the time over there, it's so easy, but am tiring of it.

Was wondering when you'd post on this Pain . I don't know how you've managed to avoid punching a hole in the wall next your PC by posting over there as long as you have - I got to that point over there once I realised that rational argument will always just be met with a continuous drone of out of context facts and erroneous or, at the very best, questionable theories presented as estabilshed fact. Some of what Nu posts is good information - but most of it gets lost in biased presentation and interpretation.

No point staying on a forum where there's no real discussion, just a battle of one persons idea of a fact vs another persons. It ceases to be about trying to learn new things and just becomes about blindly winning a point.... as it always does when someone has made their mind up about something and is no longer open to questioning that view without pejudice.

NU is a total and utter gobshite!

I very rarely post on there any more, but there is one guy on there called 'ATZ' (Any one know him?) who makes some good points and is always arguing with NU.

I really dislike how the MP forum is overly moderated... I used to see it as a source of knowledge, but it's now just a place for MP to plug their products.

Its over moderated to feck mate, and the high fat dont train club rule the roost. REAL people wh train and get REAL results are just idiots that dont know what their talking about on there

90% of the main posters on here were once all main posters on the MP forum but all left for that reason.....some left on their own, some got banned, some got banned so it made them leave and they couldnt post any more even if they wanted to

Also, I find that the new posters ask for advice and are sucked in by the likes of NU and then they feed this information on to the next generation of new posters... It's bollocks!

RC has however changed his views and I do respect him for this.

roadz wrote:NU is a total and utter gobshite!

I very rarely post on there any more, but there is one guy on there called 'ATZ' (Any one know him?) who makes some good points and is always arguing with NU.

I really dislike how the MP forum is overly moderated... I used to see it as a source of knowledge, but it's now just a place for MP to plug their products.

I was banned for being able to lift weights and be in shape. Plus having a large wang

I haven't been banned and am most distressed about that. What have I done wrong?!!