I just stumbled across this reference NYC, and now feel like i have been living in a supplement black hole for 10 years.Norephedrine, Yomimbine, and Caffeine - it seems this replaced the ECA stack for its potency and lack of sides. Used to be available OTC, not anymore.

Why did i never see any???!!!

Before you know it, this is being superceded by a whole load of new stuff i have seen discussed on forums like Avantlabs.com (which is very techy!) and stuff like Geranamine which i have managed to track down.

Julesm / Rilla, any thing to add? Is Norephedrine something that i might be abe to get from the same place as where i get my Eph?

Or am i just a cracked out, stim-obsessed buffoon?

(dont answer that)

NorE is definately the choice over standard Eph and most are cut with 100mg Caffeine. You don't get the stim'd out sides that are associated with Eph. It is like rocking horse to obtain unfortunately.

Yohimbine is pretty old school to be honest but you could easily miss this stack I guess as it's less common.

as the rather large mr t says- norE is the holy grail, well until the olympics are over (you know who i'm talking to!)

was an ingredien in stacks way back when, and never failed to deliver results even with a less than perfect diet.

my subjective opinion is that the closest you will get is taking straight E with a product called VPX meltdown (simply because avant labs heat is not available)

if you want to dose seperately, here is what i would go for:
25-60mg eph
100mg- theophyline (pharm grade)
6-20mg of yohimbine
1g tyrosine- just for fun
30mg of G/diethylamyline

now that will kick you in the ass and the face

julesm wrote:as the rather large mr t says- norE is the holy grail, well until the olympics are over (you know who i'm talking to!)

was an ingredien in stacks way back when, and never failed to deliver results even with a less than perfect diet.

my subjective opinion is that the closest you will get is taking straight E with a product called VPX meltdown (simply because avant labs heat is not available)

if you want to dose seperately, here is what i would go for:
25-60mg eph
100mg- theophyline (pharm grade)
6-20mg of yohimbine
1g tyrosine- just for fun
30mg of G/diethylamyline

now that will kick you in the ass and the face

what about the crotch? if im getting kicked in the ass and face I might as well get a finisher in the crotch; evens everything out.