Back to training properly now after my liver haematoma.

WOOP!!

No gear atm but ghrp/cjc, t3, exeestane and high insulin use.

Weight and strength are good now everything coming back very nicely all though I do miss not feeling pumped all the time.

Notable lifts atm are 120*8 bench / 200*2 dead and my squats at 130*4.

My core is sooo weak at as when the haematoma blood filled my inner lower organ space area, it utterly stretched the abs out so much. I couldn't sit up for weeks and then I could walk and slowly its just got better.

Starting some nice db pull ins now and ab roll outs to make it strong again.

Current weight is at 190lb still really lean which is nice. Basically I look the same shape but smaller ad not as full lol.
Onwards and upwards ... lets get mhuassive

Great to see you back mate. Keep healthy fella.

xx

Cheers Si x

Rab wrote:So how long is that you have been off the sauce then and im guessing that was the least of your worries?

Just stay healthy you nobend. Take yer time

Since mid august man, trust me I never want to go back into hospital..

Will be following this with interest. When we last spoke you said you were going to lay off the GH/slin/etc and only use AAS, changed your mind mate?

Good to see you getting back to full health. Not Squatting etc for ages will weaken core strength anyway before you even go into what you've had to recover from. How you finding the peptides?

maximillian do you consider it wise taking all of that- especially oral things,
somewhat OT but would you consider insulin to speed up the ageing process.

anyway glad to see you back and with that the focus, thus not straying down the other side of the road

Roadz - That was before I knew what had happened

Alex- Yeah tell me about it! Peptides are truly excellent, I love them

Jules- Insulin does imo, I love it though. lol

Btw change off plan, going to try a keto diet as I've never really tried one and thought I would

Why not? lol.

Always knew you were the secret offspring of NU.

Keto will make you uglier, hardly a luxury you can afford

LOl

Max - Keto - only go as far as a CKD or a TKD where you consume the 100-150g of carbs around workouts and then switch to Fats and Protein - you should shed any excess you got pretty fast if you are also utilising slin

tkd for shizzle
also good for the soul and satiety to have what the fcuk you want around workout time (within calorific constraints)

Sorry lads I do mean CKD. But I do plan to get into ketosis, refeeds every 2 weeks. Something I was thinking about before for along time so I'm committed to it for the immediate future. We shall see how the diet affects me.

Max wrote:Sorry lads I do mean CKD. But I do plan to get into ketosis, refeeds every 2 weeks. Something I was thinking about before for along time so I'm committed to it for the immediate future. We shall see how the diet affects me.

Max - if slin is in the mix - you wont need to do that - Id be going for TKD....you will create an environment for optimal muscle mass whilst also fat loss........ie PWO drive BG down, then have anywhere from 24-48 hours of low insuline thus greater scope for fat loss..........and then take advantage of slightly higher IS

kp1512 wrote:

Max wrote:Sorry lads I do mean CKD. But I do plan to get into ketosis, refeeds every 2 weeks. Something I was thinking about before for along time so I'm committed to it for the immediate future. We shall see how the diet affects me.

Max - if slin is in the mix - you wont need to do that - Id be going for TKD....you will create an environment for optimal muscle mass whilst also fat loss........ie PWO drive BG down, then have anywhere from 24-48 hours of low insuline thus greater scope for fat loss..........and then take advantage of slightly higher IS

Ok so say im working out 5 days a week

Fat and protein meal 1 / 2

Meal 3 100g cho dextrose / wms , 10g eaa, 20g reloaded, 5g alcar and 10 iu fast slin

Pwo whey iso

Meals 5 and 6 fats and proteins?


If not what protocol do u suggest? Thanks man x

Rab wrote:Why keto when your saying your really lean in the OP Maximus?

what kind of slin have you used and what did you find with them? fast and slow acting stuff

I'm reasonably lean not in condition. I really don't want to be fat atm.

Lantus and novo rapid.

Lantus is great and hard to go hypo off as it releases and a steady rate over 16 hours or so.
Novo around meals 1 iu per ten gram of carbs.

Fast is great for fealing very full fast, the feeling where your lats feel like like they're going to explode
Lantus takes a couple of days for fullness to come on and is great for raising igf-1 levels.

A combo is best my protocal was;
20 iu lantus am with 200mcg GHRP-2 and 80mcg GRF
Wait 20 mins do some little cardio / shower etc.
Eat breaky 50 / 100g carbs and 5/10 iu novo


Pre workout sugary pop (70/100g cho) / dex / wms /aminos and pump products or other eugenics.
With 10 iu novo.
GHRP-6 and GRF pwo then cardio after.

Do you think it's a wise thing to be using these substances given the health issues you endured due to someone else's actions?
I just feel you're probably now more at risk from causing health issues by using this stuff.
Dunno, maybe it's me??

But good to see you back training.

i think lantus is having some major negative publicity at the moment- always the case with successful pharma drugs, as competition will always find weakness or contraindications to knock off pedestal.
proceed with caution

are you using insulin to drive yourself back into keto, or for partitioning reasons?

julesm wrote:i think lantus is having some major negative publicity at the moment- always the case with successful pharma drugs, as competition will always find weakness or contraindications to knock off pedestal.
proceed with caution

are you using insulin to drive yourself back into keto, or for partitioning reasons?

With the keto I'm not using full stop. Only with carbs, I'd rather avoid an insulin coma lol

health4ni wrote:Do you think it's a wise thing to be using these substances given the health issues you endured due to someone else's actions?
I just feel you're probably now more at risk from causing health issues by using this stuff.
Dunno, maybe it's me??

But good to see you back training.

I'm pretty closely monitord atm bro. But wise no.
Possibility of causing complications, imo minimal.
Adenomas are fairly common, liver ones are rare though. I'm spechial.

Trained hamstrings this evening.

Was great, my fav workout now.

Highlight was lying glute raises with a 20k plate held to chest for 7, then was mostly lighter stuff

Fun

Energy is so great on 0 carbs its bizarre, I'm feeling great well-being as well no crash. There aybe something in this you know.

I've been 0 carbs for 5 days now, energys increasing lol. As in ore energy than usual, give it another 5 days tho we'll see

naa the first 5-8 days are the hardest...see your body is going through a serious change in fuel to key organs inc your brain...after that its plain sailing.....