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How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby GymBunny on Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:53 pm

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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby Pain on Mon Sep 21, 2009 3:50 pm

It's pretty obvious when you look at the foods that are typically consumed and the level of work/physical activity in america wherein the problem lies!

People will always try to put blame on something individual, some people blame carbs, some people blame trans fats, some people blame HFCS....truth is it's multifactoral but eating too much, not enough nutrients, destructive elements (trans fats, excess fructose etc) and unbalanced efa ratios combined with low physical activity are the main factors, there are some slightly harder to control factors such as environmental estrogen/xenoestrogens but the majority of excess estrogen in the body is caused by being fat in the first place (i avoid the word 'overweight' because many of you here will no doubt be 'overweight' but highly healthy/high muscle mass!)
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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby kean.1 on Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:20 pm

With the percentage of "overweight" people on the rise will it become more acceptable to the general public to be overweight, with less and less people trying to lead a healthy and active lifestyle? If the figures are anything to go by the amount of people overweight is catching on those viewed as healthy.
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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby Rab on Mon Sep 21, 2009 9:37 pm

Good point Kean

People that are overweight and should really do somehting about it for their health will be more inclined to be cmfortable with their fatness as there is plenty people the same and worse.

What i noticed the other day whe i caught the arse end of a program about baby's pron with issues was that all the mothers were heavily overweight.
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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby RoB on Tue Sep 22, 2009 3:07 am

Rab wrote:Good point Kean

People that are overweight and should really do somehting about it for their health will be more inclined to be cmfortable with their fatness as there is plenty people the same and worse.

What i noticed the other day whe i caught the arse end of a program about baby's pron with issues was that all the mothers were heavily overweight.


I get really annoyed when overweight pregnant women rationilize their weight gain with the saying "I'm eating for two now". No you're not you spaz, you're eating for yourself and 1/10 of another person, stop shoving pies down your trap.
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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby Pingu on Tue Sep 22, 2009 12:34 pm

As always GB you post great articles.

Extremely interesting, and well put.

Rab, I agree especially with your comment that fat people are becoming more comfortable with being fat because it is on the increase. It doesn't take a genius to work out that is not good for your health!

Personally, I have all the time in the world for people who have physical problems or genuine eating disorders of any kind which mean their ability to manage their weight is hampered.

HOWEVER. Laziness is a psychological state and not a physical one. As far as I am concerned, get up off your fat arse and do something about it! Read on the internet to learn how to improve how you eat. I am thoroughly appalled by people who bring children into this world without consideration for their health...and that is what taking your child to McDonalds on a regular basis is. It is about bloody time people took responsibility for themselves.

Rant over.

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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby Ader on Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:39 pm

This was interesting too I thought - people now don't realsie what 'fat' is!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8269462.stm

A survey suggests the vast majority of those who are obese do not realise they are so. How is this possible amid what some see as saturation coverage of the nation's burgeoning bellies?

The poll, carried out by YouGov for Slimming World, found just over a quarter of 2,000 people questioned had measurements which would place them squarely in the obese camp.

But only 7% of those asked classified themselves as so.

Over half of those deemed morbidly obese believed they ate a healthy diet, while more than a third of the overweight said they had never tried to shed the pounds.

The findings appear to be fresh evidence of a phenomenon that health professionals have long suspected: as those around us get fatter, our perceptions of our own size change accordingly.

Meanwhile pictures of children too fat to toddle or the adults so large they need to be hoisted from his house have transformed obesity into a freak show rather than a shared problem.

You're bigger than me

Many have found solace in the suggestion that Marilyn Monroe was apparently a size 16: sadly dress sizes have changed dramatically down the decades as our bodies have grown, and those who can squeeze into a size 8 today would not have been able to do so in 1940.

But our perceptions of normal have changed.

"In my view there is a very clear tendency for individuals with obesity to feel that they do not stand out from the crowd," says Jonathan Pinkney, a consultant in endocrinology and diabetes from the Association for the Study of Obesity (ASO).

"This is because the median BMI has increased so much. For example, if some 4% of women now have a BMI of more than 40, then arguably you need this sort of BMI to begin to look obviously obese when you walk down the street.

"That may be one reason why self-reported obesity underestimates its true prevalence."

The focus on the extreme in television documentaries about the very large but also in the pictures that are chosen to illustrate articles about obesity have also been held up as another potential culprit.

"If you see people with BMI of over 50, say, and you have a BMI of 40 then you may well think you aren't too bad," says Dr Krystyna Matyka of the University of Warwick Medical School.

Not my baby

Studies have also started to document a particular problem among parents in identifying weight issues among their children: Australian research recently found half of parents thought their child of average weight when in fact they were overweight.

But professionals also note the picture is a complicated one. While large may be becoming the norm, the fat - and particularly children - are often seen as a legitimate target for abuse.

"All the discussion around overweight children is so negative that it is not surprising parents find it difficult to acknowledge there is a problem. It's a defence mechanism," says Dr Susan Jebb of the Human Nutrition Research Laboratory of the Medical Research Council.

"We need to get to a point where we can talk about this in a measured way.

"Everybody knows obesity is a problem for the nation, but they don't accept it's a problem for them - as this latest survey shows. We need to give people the confidence to recognise that it is problem, and that it's one they can do something about."
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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby Alex on Wed Sep 23, 2009 12:42 pm

I'd put a lot of blame on clothing sizes as these have gone up a fair bit over recent years as the report alluded to. A UK 12 now maybe the same as a UK 14-16 a few years back.

To be honest though individuals must be able to see themselves in the mirror and you can surely only be able to deny so much...
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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby Dtlv74 on Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:03 pm

All kinds of factors in this as already mentioned, but never underestimate the effect of culture - too much emphasis in the modern world on working crazy hours to earn crazy money, leaving less time for proper shopping and cooking and so an increased reliance on cheap but unhealthy calorie laden processed convenience foods. The relative cheapness of such crap is also a big problem, as well as advertising aimed at kids.

One of the things that really annoys me related to the increasing obesity and poor diet issue is the recent increase in carb and fat blocker products advertised as supps to those looking to control bodyweight... gives the message that it's ok to eat junk and still not exercise as you can mop up the mess with nutrient blockers. Sends a terrible message imo.
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Re: How Americans became the fattest people on the planet.

Postby Pingu on Wed Sep 23, 2009 4:12 pm

Great article Ader, well found. Although I am now disturbed about the clothes size thing! :cry:

Although I understand this way of thinking to a certain extent....

"All the discussion around overweight children is so negative that it is not surprising parents find it difficult to acknowledge there is a problem. It's a defence mechanism," says Dr Susan Jebb of the Human Nutrition Research Laboratory of the Medical Research Council. We need to get to a point where we can talk about this in a measured way.


...I remain irritated (and more) that the welfare of the child does not come first. This angers me intensely. We must all accept responsibility for our actions, however difficult that may be.

Dtlv74 wrote:One of the things that really annoys me related to the increasing obesity and poor diet issue is the recent increase in carb and fat blocker products advertised as supps to those looking to control bodyweight... gives the message that it's ok to eat junk and still not exercise as you can mop up the mess with nutrient blockers. Sends a terrible message imo.


Good point Det. This ties in with my view of the whole laziness surrounding the issue. People just aren't willing to make the effort to do something about it the right way, and the way that truly yields results. I myself have fallen foul of these products (although for different reasons, at the opposite end of the scale of obesity) which really are pushed so hard.

I just wish there was more accurate education out there for people on how to eat properly. Like a balance of nutrients, not drinking cartons of smoothies to make you get your "5 a day", that fat is not the enemy, timing of carbs (something I am now learning) etc etc. I think so much is tied into big business that a skewed message is put out there for the sake of profits.
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