Just came across this useful chart summarising the effectiveness of different supplements:

http://www.informationisbeautiful.net/v ... pplements/

interesting where some things place on that chart. Looks to stand up as well as a bmi chart imo

I saw this the other day, and it reminded me to buy some Vit D.

I guess a lot of supplements are 'let down' by their relative lack of research, but it's certainly nice to see a few old faves (Vit D, fish oil, green tea) verified by the white coats.

I really don't like that chart. Saw it a while back. Mainly due to it's ridiculous placement of magnesium, it just makes me think that there research was terrible. Plenty of studies of magnesium on diabetes, several studies showing reversals of type 2 through mag supplementation alone from what i remember. Magnesium is one of my top 3 supplements.

the only good point is that it lets some people know of some of the uses of available supps. However, no dosing information.

Spit wrote:I guess a lot of supplements are 'let down' by their relative lack of research, but it's certainly nice to see a few old faves (Vit D, fish oil, green tea) verified by the white coats.

Yep - that would explain why a few things we all know are valuable supps sit further down the list.

Speaking of vit d and vit b complexes, are there any good stores you'd recommend?

Probably iherb if you don't mind ordering from the US.

i saw a 10,000 iu d3 on ebay, unsure as to its quality
so i tempted to plum for the NOW brand off ebay at only 5000iu

i have been thinking of ordering from iherb, just dont want to get buminterfered by customs for taxes

julesm wrote:i saw a 10,000 iu d3 on ebay, unsure as to its quality
so i tempted to plum for the NOW brand off ebay at only 5000iu

i have been thinking of ordering from iherb, just dont want to get buminterfered by customs for taxes

Up to £125 value of product and postage you only get hit for VAT. With Iherbs subsidised DHL service you can save plenty by stocking up and taking a one off VAT hit. I got my last parcel from them quicker that my last one from BSD

Just make sure you pay for the postage option with insurance and tracking on iherb. I spent £45 quid with the 3 months ago and it still hasn't arrived, phoned them up and they couldn't give less of a shit just told me to wait and hope.

Holy crap there's a lot of choice on iherb!

RoB wrote:I really don't like that chart. Saw it a while back. Mainly due to it's ridiculous placement of magnesium, it just makes me think that there research was terrible. Plenty of studies of magnesium on diabetes, several studies showing reversals of type 2 through mag supplementation alone from what i remember. Magnesium is one of my top 3 supplements.

That's what I thought. Also it has magnesium on twice, both near the bottom, one of them on none.

Ok if they're taliking about magnesium oxide then it's spot on but it's not very clear is it?

RoB wrote:I really don't like that chart. Saw it a while back. Mainly due to it's ridiculous placement of magnesium, it just makes me think that there research was terrible. Plenty of studies of magnesium on diabetes, several studies showing reversals of type 2 through mag supplementation alone from what i remember. Magnesium is one of my top 3 supplements.

If you open and look at the document they get the data from below the main graphic, their placement of magnesium is based on reviewing absolutely no studies on it. If they didn't review a study they shouldn't include it.

also looked at a few other things and the number of studies the data comes from is pretty pathetic... it's by no means close to comprehensive.

When doing any kind of meta review, which is basically what this is, there's absolutely no way you can cover any one thing in enough detail to give an accurate picture... and with that many supps mentioned to do that kind of review properly would need literally thousands of studies to be looked at.

Also, the 1, 3 and 6 points for effectiveness is arbitary and doesn't reflect quality of information.

I can see what they are trying to do, and it's a good idea in principal, but they way they've done the whole thing means that you've gotta look at its conclusions as incomplete and not at all definitive.

Will, this would be my choice from ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Healthy-Origins-V ... 414c09282e

Thanks dude.