Has anyone seen some of these Eastern Europeans over here?

Crikey - these guys know how to train and cycle

Decided to ask one this afternoon on what he took as these guys have REALLY blown up! One of the guys must have gone from 80kg to like 100kg+ in as little as 6 months with leaness Id put at around 10% so looks very good

Ready?

Test 1250mg for 12 weeks, 4 weeks Test 250mg, Test 1250mg 12 weeks, 4 weeks Test 250mg and just cycle it for 12 months. If he felt like it he would throw in Anadrol for no more than 3 weeks at a time.

Wasnt expecting that answer and I have no reason to think he was shitting me.

Sounds about right from what I've seen. Roids are OTC in Poland, so they have no worries on purity.

What AAS is that? And is that a lot? I haven't a baldy about roid dosages etc

health4ni wrote:What AAS is that? And is that a lot? I haven't a baldy about roid dosages etc

That'll be test in all likelihood and it's a shed load tbh. 400mg is more than enough, but msot people go way over.

health4ni wrote:What AAS is that? And is that a lot? I haven't a baldy about roid dosages etc

^^ what he said

health4ni wrote:What AAS is that? And is that a lot? I haven't a baldy about roid dosages etc

Sorry - I mean Testosterone Enanthate.

Well the average testes makes 50-75mg a week.

But to answer the question - I wouldnt put that at alot if that is all he is using as he clearly liked to stay away from Orals and when he took them would limit it to 3 weeks [albeit the worse one lol]

Nice blast cruise there. I see no reason why anybody needs anything elce apart from a G of test per week for a recreational lifter that just wants that bit extra. As you said some fast acting orals would do the trick when used sparodically.

Imo if you are a serious lifter, stay on pretty much all year round. Use low dose hcg (250iu 2* pw) to avoid nut atrophy, get bloods e3 moths and come off if you want kids... Avoid toxic chemcals like clomid and nolva at all costs.

Have a good balanced diet and you will be healthy with the musculature you desire.. I'm not bein funny but why not?

I mean yes its good to train natrually to build your base but when you know what you are doing (As in knowing your macros/training/supplementation/diet and lifestyle and as I said you will be doing it for life, you're denying yourself key benifits from moderte doses of testosterone). I know I will be on trt later on in life as the benifits are obvioiusly very noticeable and life extending / life quality improving.

GH I will also use when I'm older and stay on it for the rest of my life.

Improving your enjoyment, well being and lifestyle should be key to having a productive and happy life. When you can supplement your own natural hormones and peptides for benifit I see no reason why we should all not enjoy it.

Your comment on Nolva / Clomid?

Is this a Brit thing? Ive seen alot knocking it - yet time and time again Clomid seems to be the best for faster endo recovery. Ive seen some good info on Exemestane as well being used for post cycle.

So what's the downside to just doing a load of test every day/week?

Bison wrote:So what's the downside to just doing a load of test every day/week?

Well - finestride 1mg EOD or E3D, Arimidex 0.5mg EOD or Exemstane 12.5mg EOD- and you pretty much can cover off any of the issues.

With blood work as Max says every 3-6 months - you know - they are limited I would assume.

[Not condoning its use BTW]

Very simple cycle with the core hormone that is responsible for muscle building. cant really go wrong

kp1512 wrote:Your comment on Nolva / Clomid?

Is this a Brit thing? Ive seen alot knocking it - yet time and time again Clomid seems to be the best for faster endo recovery. Ive seen some good info on Exemestane as well being used for post cycle.

Oh yeah clomid is the shit for LH stimulation it raises LH levels like some crazy percentile off bassline. Clomid is seriously THE drug for recovery.

I'm just saying they are seriously toxic and positively linked to uterian cancer (nolva) and sother side effects such as gyno and upregulation of PGR receptors. Exemestane is like the best AI it doesn't mess up my blood lipids at all unlike Arimidex tht sends my cholesterol levels sky high.
I had a 9.5c level that was mostly LDL after using adex for 12 weeks at 1mg ed. Exemestane doesn't touch them at all and it returned to a very healthy balance after that in the region of 5.2nmol iirc (have to check)..

Point is pct is soo much more stressfull than the actuall cycle. The new SERMS are alot better like Toremifene, but still heavy on toxicity. I just don't get using gear which is stressfull enough then putting your body under even more stress reccovering whch is doubly as hard for your body than the aas in the first place..

Bison - horneyness, agression (dependable), gyno, spots, raised blood lipids, and henchness lol But the side effects are different and innate to everyone. Most get none, some get loads. Thats why you really need to do your research and know what to do before anything goes badly wrong..

I dont know why anyone would use anything other then exemestane now anyway as it is pretty much the best AI around.