Fish and Rice cakes

Get 'em in a blender and you could add them to your shake or take them intravenously !
Sorry couldn't resist

Cheers
Mak

Alex wrote:I'd go with rice and fish cakes instead so you don't get bored.

Isn't that a hard diet to follow. I'd never take the rice cakes at the right meal

cleaver wrote:

Alex wrote:I'd go with rice and fish cakes instead so you don't get bored.

Isn't that a hard diet to follow. I'd never take the rice cakes at the right meal

I would suggest maybe writing your planned meals down for each day. This way you won't get confused as to whether you're eating fish, rice, rice cakes or fish cakes at any given meal and would help prevent the disaster of combining the same macros - rioce and rice cakes or fish and fish cakes.

Few changes now - probably will keep the shakes the same and and introducde other food options in the coming week.

Summary
350g Protein + 50g EAA
200g Carbs
100g Fat [900cals]
2200cals + 900 cals : 3100 cals


Meal 1
125g Rolled Oats
7 egg ommlete with cheese
EAA 15g
Greens one serving

Meal 2 - 130g Tilda Brown WM Rice
50g WPC

EAA 15g

Meal 3 - 50g WPC /Apple/Watermelon + Brazil Nuts

Meal 4 - as above

Meal 5 - 50g WPC and Coconut Oil

Meal 6 - Cod + Jacket Potato + Banana + boiled vegetable pack

Meal 7 - WPC 30gg
EAA 15g

Greens One Serving

Final changes I think for the moment

Summary
350g Protein + 50g EAA
200g Carbs
100g Fat [900cals]
2200cals + 900 cals : 3100 cals


Meal 1
125g Rolled Oats
7 egg ommlete with cheese
EAA 15g
Greens one serving

Meal 2 - 130g Tilda Brown WM Rice / 8 slices Wholemeal Brown Bread
25g/25g MPC WPC

EAA 15g

Meal 3 - 50g WPC /Apple/Watermelon + Brazil Nuts

Meal 4 - as above plus fruit mix of apple, banana and watermelon

Meal 5 - 50g WPC and Coconut Oil

Meal 6 - Cod + Jacket Potato + Banana + boiled vegetable pack

Meal 7 - WPC 30g
EAA 15g

Greens One Serving

kp1512 wrote:
Meal 2 - 130g Tilda Brown WM Rice / 8 slices Wholemeal Brown Bread
25g/25g MPC WPC

Meal 3 - 50g WPC /Apple/Watermelon + Brazil Nuts

Meal 4 - as above plus fruit mix of apple, banana and watermelon

Meal 2 - FFS what a big pile of donkey dick.

AFAIK you should never eat watermelon with other food due to its speed of digestion. Probably not make a difference to a fat la like you.

cleaver wrote:

kp1512 wrote:
Meal 2 - 130g Tilda Brown WM Rice / 8 slices Wholemeal Brown Bread
25g/25g MPC WPC

Meal 3 - 50g WPC /Apple/Watermelon + Brazil Nuts

Meal 4 - as above plus fruit mix of apple, banana and watermelon

Meal 2 - FFS what a big pile of donkey dick.

AFAIK you should never eat watermelon with other food due to its speed of digestion. Probably not make a difference to a fat la like you.

Speed of Digestion for WM? When you are eating different things it wont have a difference.

I gota do what I can with what I have where I am. Being practical. Ideally Id want a decent filled WM sandwich with meat but it just aint possible.

Pieces and Brown rice

cleaver wrote:Pieces and Brown rice

What ya mean?

Slice of bread, put brown rice on top, then another slice of bread on top of that. Et viola a piece and brown rice.

kp1512 wrote:

cleaver wrote:Pieces and Brown rice

What ya mean?

Pieces = Sandwiches in Scotlandshire. AKA "Chits"

kp1512 wrote:yep however again -surely this is sub-optimal? if he followed a varied diet who is to say he wouldnt have got more?

just throwing it in the ring as opposed to anything else

Remember when you said this skinny?

Suggestion for you Special K

When you are cooking your evening mea of the cod or whatever you are having that night...why dont you cook something into a tupperwear fro the next day aswell?

Hows about some tins of mackerel fillet for the road?

cleaver wrote:

kp1512 wrote:yep however again -surely this is sub-optimal? if he followed a varied diet who is to say he wouldnt have got more?

just throwing it in the ring as opposed to anything else

Remember when you said this skinny?

Yep - and i stand by it; Macro to Marco

Bearing in mind previously I pretty much used WPC shakes only during the day when I was working over the UK - and hell it didnt stop me putting on considerable size and strength. But this time around - Ill tinker more and hopefully get a better balance.

Rab wrote:Suggestion for you Special K

When you are cooking your evening mea of the cod or whatever you are having that night...why dont you cook something into a tupperwear fro the next day aswell?

Hows about some tins of mackerel fillet for the road?

Yep been thinking about this last few days.

Yday what I did was 200g Brown Rice, the 99p Tesco veg boil packs? You know the ones that have a load of cauli,broc,carrots etc? and then some chicken. I made it last night and it took me 50 mins which is good. Ill aim to have two of these aday as I used the fiery tomato and chilli sauce from whats his name Jamie whatever his face from Sainsburys - bloody nice tasting and you only need a bit. That will give me a good varied profile of marcos. That along with wpc/mpc/cod gives me a decent multi source protein as well throughout the day

Its all falling in place man! Slowly but surely! but gota start from somewhere! 6 weeks ago it was 6 shakes a day! Totally crazy - but gota do what you gota do man.

I just need to nail down the fats now. Using brazil nuts, Omega 3. coconut oil and olive oil - which seem to be a good array - just need to fit them in better.

kp1512 wrote:

cleaver wrote:

kp1512 wrote:yep however again -surely this is sub-optimal? if he followed a varied diet who is to say he wouldnt have got more?

just throwing it in the ring as opposed to anything else

Remember when you said this skinny?

Yep - and i stand by it; Macro to Marco

Bearing in mind previously I pretty much used WPC shakes only during the day when I was working over the UK - and hell it didnt stop me putting on considerable size and strength. But this time around - Ill tinker more and hopefully get a better balance.

But surely you would make better gains on a varied diet like you said.

But surely you would make better gains on a varied diet like you said.

Yep Id agree - hence the multi source marco view - which is what I am building into it.

So days where I have limited scope for food - Ill follow this to a T and weekends and days when I am not working - I can be a little more varied.

The net effect is that I dont just rely on the same sources of macros - which to me makes sense and keeps the body fuelled. Whereas before - where I was majority on Shakes - I was pretty much screwed - Yes it did work - but longer term I doubt it would be good for me.

Few more changes and added another 100g carbs as Im losing weight bit too fast - waist has dropped an inch to 35.5 in like 13 days which isnt good as I am not meant to be losing weight.

Summary
350g Protein + 50g EAA
300g Carbs
100g Fat [900cals]
2600cals + 900 cals : 3500 cals


Meal 1
125g Rolled Oats
7 egg ommlete with cheese
EAA 15g
Greens one serving

Meal 2 - 130g Tilda Brown WM Rice + chicken [shredded]

EAA 15g

Meal 3 - 200g Wholewheat Pasta with chilli and tomato sauce and WPC

Meal 4 - dont always have this one - but if I dont I grab some fruit etc but it may also be just before WO so could be some carbs plus bcaaeaa mix

Meal 5 - 50g WPC and Coconut Oil [dep on workout day] or will be gatorade / eaa/bcaa/creatine

Meal 6 - Cod + Jacket Potato + Banana + boiled vegetable pack

Meal 7 - WPC 30g
EAA 15g

Greens One Serving

Notes - Diet changes depending on where I am - but at home I am now having around 500g of mixed vegetables with carrots, broccoli, cauliflower etc all in easy to cook packs along with the greens so Im hitting a decent profile from Veges. Fruit has gone up also by virtue of apples and bananas especially at home / work.

Overall alot better than my previous liquid diet which whilst working - cant have been good for my body overall.

Will keep this for a few weeks and see how things go or may bump up fats by another 30-40g.

Decided to throw in Citrulline Malate yday and have also managed to get some good quality Nettle Root powder that Ive added at 800mg a day.

Also started a year round course of Liv 52 DS - which is a remarkable natural supplement for the Liver.

What reasoning for the inclusion of CitMal?

What does Nettle Root Powder do?

Can be used as a natural AI.

cleaver wrote:What reasoning for the inclusion of CitMal?

Never taken it alone - but more importantly I want to throw in some high rep work on my final sets with decent weight and CM seems to be able to give a good % boost on work rate

health4ni wrote:What does Nettle Root Powder do?

Has potential to bind to SHBG and thus potentially free's up more free testosterone to enter cells. The issue with this was getting the right root powder and grade. It is a big topic of debate - but as you know SHBG binds to Testosterone to the factor of around 97-98%. Even a 3% decrease in this would have immense power in terms of how the body would react.

Just an experiment more than anything....as some suggest it does if taken in the right amount and correct extract

where did you get the nettle root powder from?

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Have you heard about Pumpkin Seed Oil being an AI too?