DaN's Quest for MASS

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DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:16 pm

Hi, im going to be making my first online training journal as i have never made one.

I am going to be bulking and trying to put on LEAN size for for next year, as i will be competeing roughly in september 09. I want to put alot more size on to try and stay up there with the top UKBFF junior athletes.


Training Style:
The training style that i am going to be following is a Dorian Yates style workout, which i find IS very very effective, as recovery really isnt an issue, and we all know recovery is VERY important. In this routine i am going to be picking some MAIN compound exercises to stick to through this routine, to try and improove on them.

These are: Chest: flat bench, Back: Bent over barbell rows, Biceps, E-Z bar barbell curl, Triceps Close grip bench press, Shoulders Seated Dumbell Press, Traps behind the back E-Z bar shrugs, Legs Sqauts.

These exercises i WILL definatly do these, and i will be doing these as the first exercises, except e-z barbell curls, The other exercises what i will be doing will be more of an instinct, Like if i do chest i'll do the flat bench and might altenrate between doing dumbell incline or incline barbell AFTER my main exercise i pick, i might change the secondary exercises, as i see the exercises i picked above as PRIMARY exercies to me right now.


I am going to be doing this routine for 12 weeks, i have already completed 4 weeks and i am on my 5th week now, Then i might follow it by increasing the volume to shock the body, and then re-start the routine if i find it was beneficial enough, and RE-PICK my MAIN exercises.


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Age: 20, Weight: 91kg, Height: 6'00
Training Experiance: 4 years.
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but im finaly getting some income now ;)

Also, i will be listeing to my body more, as if i need a rest day i may take it or possibly another 1... and if some muscles arent sore, then i might choose a different muscle group to do the next day, So this also is going to be INSTINCT, but i will still make sure i get the full body completed.

Also again, the drop sets/rest pauses/negatives, will be INSTINCT, i will do which ever will take the muscle to complete failure, and i WILL be doing this every set, so i wont count these, and do just as many as i can to complete failure.

I will start by mondays session:
Flat Barbell bench press 105kg 4 reps, rest pause
Incline Smith Machine 70kg, 6 reps (just counting the plates as weight on smith machines)
Decline Smith Machine 87kg. 10 reps
Seated Machine press full stack, 12 reps
Flat Dumbell Fly's 25kg 9 reps.

Remember, ALL of these sets are followed, by negatives, rest pauses, and sometimes drop sets to reach complete failure!

I was sopost to do Biceps this session, but i thaught id mix it around and train bi's + tris the same time this week.
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 7:28 pm

Todays session: (tuesday) was Shoulders, This session, was also a bit of a shock training, as i just did 1 main set for shoulders and did a bit of volume for shoulders, as i havent done much volume fo them in 4 weeks and thaught it would be a nice lil shock.

So today, i didnt do any rest-pauses, or anything like that 2day was just a nice standard session for that shock, i love training like this but the main reason i trained like this cuz i didnt havea partner with me, and doing the dorian yates style, a partner is a MUST, but anyway i think this session would benefit me anyway as i said because its different and keeps the body guessing.

(This was done at fitness first gym, as i train at 2 gyms, as i train at the college gym also, but because im a sport science student it is free for me, so i get to train there for free of charge, so i do sessions here and there sometimes, but the only down side to training there as the heavyiest dumbell is 25kg :( )

Seated Dumbell Press: 40kg 6 reps, - I really HAVE improoved on this exercise, my best 4 weeks ago was 34kg for 6 reps.. (gotta love rebound haha), 32kg 10 reps, 30kg 10 reps (only negatives on first set)
Seated Dumbell flys very strict, 10kg, slow negatives, 10, 10, 10
Side bench chest on the bench, reverse shoulder lateral raises: 10kg, 15, 15, 15
Seated Shoulder press machine 60kg, 10 reps, 75kg 4 reps (full stack) 25kg, 30 reps.


Thats it for todays session, i really do believe you shouldnt train for more than an hour because it really just hampers your recovery, in there nice and quick stimulate the muscles, get out n get ya nutrition.

Tomorow i will be DOING Sqauts, and tomorow my order from BSD comes, ive ordered some:
Whey protein + Milk protein blend 5kg, smooth belgium chocolate flavour (finally can get some now... havent had any whey protein powder for 2 weeks lol, so this should defiatly help me more :D)
Creatine (creapure) 500g
ZMA
L-glutamine
Fine cut oats, (to help make some meal replacement meals with the protein)

I have never tryed l-glutamine or ZMA before... so it should be interesting, thinking about taking l-glutamine with almost every meal 2-5g i was thinking of doing. Im going to be loading on the creapure i think for a few weeks of 20g each day? and like i said i will be using the oats to make some MRP with the protein and have it while im at work(when i start lol, should be this week or next week), so i can still get my nutrition in!

The order is coming tomorow... i think in the morning not sure, as i was thinking of doing gym in the morning, as tomorow is my study day (day off college basicly lol) so i think i'll wait in for the delivery to come if it comes in the morning, but not sure, i think my mum will be staying in when i go gym anyway if she doesnt drop my sis off college.

Id like to thank any1 taking the time to read this journal, and i'll try my best to keep the PB'S coming on..


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Rab on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:23 pm

Good luck with your off season.

I do allot of HIT training and find it really productive. It would be interesting to see what intensity techniques you are using for what exercise...makes the journal more accurate aswell.

Any reason why your primary chest exercise is a flat press rather than incline?
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby simon m on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:29 pm

Rab wrote:Good luck with your off season.

I do allot of HIT training and find it really productive. It would be interesting to see what intensity techniques you are using for what exercise...makes the journal more accurate aswell.

Any reason why your primary chest exercise is a flat press rather than incline?

I was going to ask the same question as your upper chest is in need of quite a bit of work, doing flat seems nonsensical.
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Alex on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:30 pm

Thirded.

Should be interesting to see how you get on through the competition year, especially come diet time.
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:31 pm

Rab wrote:Good luck with your off season.

I do allot of HIT training and find it really productive. It would be interesting to see what intensity techniques you are using for what exercise...makes the journal more accurate aswell.

Any reason why your primary chest exercise is a flat press rather than incline?



Because i did the incline last time, but the incline really aggreviates my shoulder for when i injured it, thats the main reason. After i did it, it felt really bad like id injured it again, its just that position its really weird for me, ive tryed dumbells also, so im thinking of trying strengthen the area up then do the incline

Yehh sure i'll add the intensity techniques bro if ya want m8, to make it more accurate, but i do loads! lol Oh and legs, is more volume trained as i think legs needs more volume to help them to be stimulated!


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby simon m on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:32 pm

Dan

Are you doing any RC work? If not, start now my friend!
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:33 pm

I also still do incline, every chest session, just the flat bench helps to pre-exhaust me because when i go too heavy on the incline it really aggreviates my shoulder, so it helps pre-exhausting it so i can isolate my chest a bit better.


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:33 pm

simon m wrote:Dan

Are you doing any RC work? If not, start now my friend!



Rotator cuff work? Yehhh i just started that 2 weeks ago, with 6 sets each session 3x a week



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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Rab on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:34 pm

Have you had the shoulder seen to by a physio or that Dan?
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby SCOTT GALTON on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:38 pm

Dan whats your rep cadence? Try slowing things down a bit. Have you ever see blood and guts? That really shows how intense it has to be. Also hve your tried legs to failure? Its not pretty :D
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:38 pm

Rab wrote:Have you had the shoulder seen to by a physio or that Dan?



No, dont they cost money? im really struggling finanicaly, just started get my self up as i got a job, and my shoulder isnt too bad at all, its strange, its JUST certain angles which really affect it, them angles are, incline, and wide grip pullups, and dumbell pullovers, THEM are the only thing that aggreviates my shoulders, but i can press fine and everything else like dumbell press etc, it pretty weird, and i injured my shoulder by doing skull crushers, but using improper technoque, i went back tooo far, and it just went :S


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:40 pm

SCOTT GALTON wrote:Dan whats your rep cadence? Try slowing things down a bit. Have you ever see blood and guts? That really shows how intense it has to be. Also hve your tried legs to failure? Its not pretty :D



My rep cadence, is REALLY slow and controlled haha yeh i seen blood and guts, i got it, its awesome, its very slow on the negative, but fast on the positive, as i really believe in negatives, And yeh tomorow, im going to failure on sqauts, but just i like to work more volume combined with a bit of intensity with legs i think, as they are more resiliant and need to be hit a bit harder as u use them everyday life!


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby SCOTT GALTON on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:47 pm

I suppose im the wrong person to ask about leg training. Mine are so short they look massive! Good luck with the mass mate. This should be a good read
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:53 pm

SCOTT GALTON wrote:I suppose im the wrong person to ask about leg training. Mine are so short they look massive! Good luck with the mass mate. This should be a good read



Haha, i know a few people like that lol, also u dont have to go down as deep :( lol

But yeh should be good this training journal should ive progressed really nicely so far so should hopefully progress even more!


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby SCOTT GALTON on Tue Oct 21, 2008 8:56 pm

it still feels like a long way :D
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Richard on Wed Oct 22, 2008 8:54 am

simon m wrote:Dan

Are you doing any RC work? If not, start now my friend!


Good journal Dan, I like the detailed write up. Good luck with your off season training.

I agree with Simon. Most people could do with strengthening upward rotation, external rotation, & scapula retraction - so cuban rotations, external rotations, face pulls & pec minor stretch, some thoracic mobility work would probably help too. Here's a bit of reading & some vids :)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_art ... and_shrugs
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-improve-y ... -mobility/
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ONHZmsF ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kexr7CqnV ... re=related
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:29 am

Richard wrote:
simon m wrote:Dan

Are you doing any RC work? If not, start now my friend!


Good journal Dan, I like the detailed write up. Good luck with your off season training.

I agree with Simon. Most people could do with strengthening upward rotation, external rotation, & scapula retraction - so cuban rotations, external rotations, face pulls & pec minor stretch, some thoracic mobility work would probably help too. Here's a bit of reading & some vids :)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_art ... and_shrugs
http://stronglifts.com/how-to-improve-y ... -mobility/
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=A0ONHZmsF ... re=related
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=kexr7CqnV ... re=related



Thanks alot mate, i will try all them thoracic mobility work on rest days, as thats also an issue for me, also i will try them rotator cuff exercises, thanks alot mate!!!


Should definatly help me that should and reduce injury


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Richard on Wed Oct 22, 2008 9:56 am

Hope it helps Dan. I've had a lot of injuries so rehab is my favourite subject :D
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby cleaver on Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:50 am

7 days @20g creapure will be enough to reach saturation point IMO. After that 5g a day will suffice to keep you saturated.
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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:54 pm

Richard wrote:Hope it helps Dan. I've had a lot of injuries so rehab is my favourite subject :D




Thanks alot m8... haha at least u gained somet from the injury... KNOWLEDGE!, thanks alot m8!

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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby simon m on Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:02 pm

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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:09 pm

Today was Quads/Hamstrings

And was a great session, and made a few PB'S i did:



Sqauts: 110kg,4 sets, 6, 6, 7 (thaught i had another rep in so went for 7 although was still saving my self for the last set), 8 (failure) (PB!!, really concentrating on my sqaut, last week i could only manage 100kg sqaut 8 reps to failure, but this week i did 110kg for 8 rep failure... which i think is pretty good, Just need more time and shall be climbing the sqaut weigh in no time)
Leg Press: 200kg, 4 sets, 10 reps(with 2 black either side, the black 1s say they weigh 20kg, but DAMN they dont they weight at least 25kg, much heavyier than the blue 20kg) 240kg 8 reps, 280kg 6 reps, 300kg 6 reps (failure), all of these leg presses were pretty damn deep id say.
Leg Extension, 96kg,4 sets, 8, 7, 6, then last set did, 6 reps, + 2 forced reps, + 1 rest pause (20 sec rest), 1 drop set to 54kg, and did 5 reps and hit failure. But did a static hold for about 10 secs on this last rep!
Lying Leg Curl, 4 sets 50kg 10, 55kg, 6, 60kg, 5, last set i did, 60kg 5 reps, + 2 forced, + 1 rest paused (10 sec rest)
Stiff leg deadlifts, 3 sets 35kg, 20,20,20 I do these to stretch my hamstrings off and i dont do a FULL stiff leg dead lift, i do half way, i do this to keep tension on my hamstrings and it damn hurts lol!

Session didnt last long, about 50 mins as an average

Could barely walk after this session haha, was a great session, Im just really focusing on my sqauting atmo... my deadlifting is pretty good tho, because the best i got was 205kg deadlift 1 rep, 180kg 4 reps, and that was about 6 months ago, havent deadlifted since, because it puts a bit 2 much pressure on my lower back after about 8 weeks of heavy balls out reps on the deadlift, but CANT wait to get back to it... but my bent over rows need imrpooving so im focusing a bit on that.

Also my order arrived today when i got in which was, 5kg flavoured whey + milk protein blend, 1kg l-glutamine, 500g creatine, ZMA and 5kg fine oats.

Thinking of loading the creatine for 1 week, then back to maintenace dose. Thinking of having l-glutamine with almost every meal, (just 5g), gonna take ZMA before bed, and gonna use the oats to make a MRP, and use the protein when ever, but about 3-4 times a day depending on things. How does that seem to everyone? alright yeh?
Heard u can get some pretty weird dreams off ZMA.. lol i'll give it a try, i think that should help also.


Tomorow, ive got back, rear delts, and traps!, cant wait should be a good session, always is on back

Thanks for reading my journal


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Daniel McCue on Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:11 pm

simon m wrote:Dan

No text speak mate. We're adults! :D



Text speak? huh? lol


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Re: DaN's Quest for MASS

Postby Craig on Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:16 pm

Dan your posting style is hard to read in your journal, its better if you use bold for lift names then normal for the lifts, use gaps between different lifts and keep the numbers and thoughts separate.

Basically make it easy and user friendly :mrgreen:

Glutamine with every meal is great for alkalization but you'll lose the digestive benefits, what are you hoping for by using glutamine?
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