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Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby cleaver on Sun Nov 23, 2008 8:15 pm

J Strength Cond Res. 2008 Nov 8. A Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats in Healthy Trained Individuals.

The strength and stability of the knee plays an integral role in athletics and activities of daily living. A better understanding of knee joint biomechanics while performing variations of the squat would be useful in rehabilitation and exercise prescription. We quantified and compared tibiofemoral joint kinetics as well as muscle activity while executing front and back squats. Because of the inherent change in the position of the center of mass of the bar between the front and back squat lifts, we hypothesized that the back squat would result in increased loads on the knee joint and that the front squat would result in increased knee extensor and decreased back extensor muscle activity. A crossover study design was used. To assess the net force and torque placed on the knee and muscle activation levels, a combination of video and force data, as well as surface electromyographic data, were collected from 15 healthy trained individuals. The back squat resulted in significantly higher compressive forces and knee extensor moments than the front squat. Shear forces at the knee were small in magnitude, posteriorly directed, and did not vary between the squat variations. Although bar position did not influence muscle activity, muscle activation during the ascending phase was significantly greater than during the descending phase. The front squat was as effective as the back squat in terms of overall muscle recruitment, with significantly less compressive forces and extensor moments. The results suggest that front squats may be advantageous compared with back squats for individuals with knee problems such as meniscus tears, and for long-term joint health.


So Front squats are the dogs danglies then?
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Bison on Sun Nov 23, 2008 10:06 pm

Front squats are evil and quite possibly the single hardest exercise to master?

Love 'em... I find these so much less stressfull on my body than back squats and they actually hit my quads harder, aswell as the abs. No need for the ego weights either.
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Morba on Mon Nov 24, 2008 12:54 pm

agreed, i love front squats. however, i thought it was universally known that fronts were better on your knees.

Would be interesting to see the tests though, what sort of weight was being used. I would hope it would be near maximal for both front and back squats, not the same weight for both.
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby ollie on Tue Dec 16, 2008 11:37 pm

I've recently dropped back squats as my knees were starting to play up a little - nothing bad, but they were being aggravated. Definitely think that fronts are the best if you're going with one squat variant.
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby health4ni on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:04 am

Variation chaps. Swap between Front & Back Squats is best imo. Which reminds me: bout time I did some Front again lol
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby cleaver on Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:09 am

health4ni wrote:Variation chaps. Swap between Front & Back Squats is best imo. Which reminds me: bout time I did some Front again lol


I do both :D

I've found hip width stance to be best for me. Is there any need to vary stance from time to time?
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby GymBunny on Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:10 pm

cleaver wrote:
health4ni wrote:Variation chaps. Swap between Front & Back Squats is best imo. Which reminds me: bout time I did some Front again lol


I do both :D

I've found hip width stance to be best for me. Is there any need to vary stance from time to time?


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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Spit on Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:46 pm

Just got around to reading this thread, and it tallies with something I've been wondering recently- why bother doing back squats at all? Assuming you're doing deadlift variations to hit the posterior chain, why not balance that with an exercise that's more quad-dominant, requires much greater anterior core stability, and moves (much of) the stress from your lower back to your mid-back? When you factor in the benefit that front squats keep your shoulders in a healthier position too then I really can't see much need to include back squats in a program unless you're a competitive powerlifter.

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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby health4ni on Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:51 pm

Variation once again. Maybe if you want why not focus on Front Squats more than Back Squats but you'll still stimulate different portions of the muscles when Back Squatting compared to anything else (same for all exercises).

I just hit a Front Squat PB today too! 105kgx2 ATG 3 secs eccentric :D

Stance: yes, I think it does matter. Again variation. A "cyclist squat" is a feet together (or almost) front squat. Now after trying it you tell me it doesn't hit your muscles differently!
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Dtlv74 on Tue Jan 13, 2009 4:56 pm

Spit wrote:Just got around to reading this thread, and it tallies with something I've been wondering recently- why bother doing back squats at all? Assuming you're doing deadlift variations to hit the posterior chain, why not balance that with an exercise that's more quad-dominant, requires much greater anterior core stability, and moves (much of) the stress from your lower back to your mid-back? When you factor in the benefit that front squats keep your shoulders in a healthier position too then I really can't see much need to include back squats in a program unless you're a competitive powerlifter.

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Good question! I think one factor is that while front squats are excellent, they are more limited than back squats in how you can vary them in terms of foot position etc. Also, front squats aren't really suited well to high rep work as, in balancing the upper body, you fatigue your rhomboids very quickly. A related problem applies to very heavy front squats in that, while the legs can still handle the weight, the position of hollding the bar in position over the shoulders becomes very uncomfortable and becomes a limiting factor... back squats are i think a much more flexible exercise both in reps, positioning of feet and load, and this makes them still worthy of use.
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Spit on Tue Jan 13, 2009 5:53 pm

Good points from you both. I know what you mean about variety Health, I do some deadlift variations (e.g. duck-footed deadlifts) from time to time that I think cover the bases, but this is just finding the variation in another area. Also, I suppose when I think of back-squatting I think of a more powerlifter-style wide stance effort that takes full advantage of the posterior chain- again though this is just one variation.

Props on the PR too, consider me suitably impressed! As my left knee improves I'm seeing quite quick gains on my front squat; I'm still a long way off moving that sort of weight, but will be in the gym half an hour from now giving it my best.

Det, you're right about back squats being better suited to higher reps too, I hadn't though of that one. As for very heavy weights I'm often left with red scrapes running across my delts & clavicles- I wonder if anyone has ever broken their collarbone front-squatting?! :o
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Marks1972 on Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:56 pm

Another thing i like about Front squats is that i have any sort of back niggle that back squatting may make worse, front squatting doesnt.. in fact, it seems to help it, probably as it wakes the front of me up and stops my back doing all the hard work, like stopping all 18 stone of me falling over when i walk.
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Marks1972 on Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:57 pm

Spit wrote: As for very heavy weights I'm often left with red scrapes running across my delts & clavicles- I wonder if anyone has ever broken their collarbone front-squatting?! :o


I often bruise my front delts, but thats coz i have a habit of bouncing the bar into position if its not sitting quite right.
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Re: Biomechanical Comparison of Back and Front Squats

Postby Dtlv74 on Tue Jan 13, 2009 9:57 pm

Marks1972 wrote:
Spit wrote: As for very heavy weights I'm often left with red scrapes running across my delts & clavicles- I wonder if anyone has ever broken their collarbone front-squatting?! :o


I often bruise my front delts, but thats coz i have a habit of bouncing the bar into position if its not sitting quite right.


Lol, have bruises on my delts from front squats right now. I normally wear a thicker top on front squat days to act as padding... wuss that i am!
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