I remember an old PE teacher of mine saying that there is no point in doing weights for like 3days after a drinking session (i assume large amounts, not a glass or two of wine) as the body is still dealing with it, is there any truth to this?

Im basically interested in just getting my body back into its normal state as quick as possible, though I dont really have any idea how to do this. My routine is just drinking a huge amount of water and green tea, eat a decent amount of only good food and make sure I get some form of cardio in.

In the past i've noticed after a heavy session my weight goes up a few kilograms and comes down slowly over a week back to its normal level, I thought that was pretty extreme!

I tend to stop drinking booze during training...

Shicky wrote:
In the past i've noticed after a heavy session my weight goes up a few kilograms and comes down slowly over a week back to its normal level, I thought that was pretty extreme!

I've noticed that happens to me too. Don't know the science of it. I don't think you need to wait 3 days before you go to the gym again. Might not be as good as usual but better than not going...

Could be all the excess liquid sitting in your system.

simon m wrote:I tend to stop drinking booze during training...

I find that vodka via the eye gives a real boost in the gym

upright wrote:

simon m wrote:I tend to stop drinking booze during training...

I find that vodka via the eye gives a real boost in the gym

Eye Ball Paul Style?

Tall wrote:

upright wrote:

simon m wrote:I tend to stop drinking booze during training...

I find that vodka via the eye gives a real boost in the gym

Eye Ball Paul Style?

That's the way but no more than half a bottle in the gym so I can manage to leave. I once consumed a little to much and woke up the following day slumped over Leg extension machine with my pants round my ankles. The most embarrassing thing of it was I had to rush out that day, nothing was clean but I hate going commando. So I'd just slung a pair of hers on. They looked like a normal pair of blue panties when I pulled them out of her draw but they were the novelty ones I'd got her which say "It's not rape if I don't say no..."

upright wrote: I once consumed a little to much and woke up the following day slumped over Leg extension machine with my pants round my ankles.

Love it! Funnily enough i've heard numerous girls use that 'its not rape if' line, gotta love todays society.

Didn't mean for it to turn into the usual dont drink then you tard if you want results. Was just interested if there is some sort of chemical or physiological reason that a weights session would be a waste of time for the next few days, he seemed to put it to me that during this time you can't build muscle full stop. Because the muscles lack enough water or something?

As for the weight shift I just found it a bit odd that its such an obvious difference, really put in place for me a moment on the lips, a lifetime on the hips - yes im a ladyboy and its my favourite saying

Alcohol (except red wine) reduces Testosterone levels. So that in itself would be detrimental to training. However, the body removes alcohol pretty quickly so unless you're still drunk that may not be an issue. At least I'd hope you wouldn't train whilst drunk! lol

Being slightly dehydrated and feeling shit will likely not help a session. I remember once taking a "whitey" whilst working out cos of a heavy night beforehand. Not a nice feeling for sure (Uni days).

Also, the body uses more of it's resources to remove the alcohol from the body and so less resources are used for fat loss which no matter what your goals is always nice to have when training.

health4ni wrote:Alcohol (except red wine) reduces Testosterone levels. So that in itself would be detrimental to training. However, the body removes alcohol pretty quickly so unless you're still drunk that may not be an issue. At least I'd hope you wouldn't train whilst drunk! lol

Being slightly dehydrated and feeling shit will likely not help a session. I remember once taking a "whitey" whilst working out cos of a heavy night beforehand. Not a nice feeling for sure (Uni days).

Also, the body uses more of it's resources to remove the alcohol from the body and so less resources are used for fat loss which no matter what your goals is always nice to have when training.

i didn't think the body used any resources for fat loss - as in the body likes fat. i thought it was a lack of resources that encouraged fat loss

Scott - surely red wine does reduce test levels?

@upright: the body does "work" to reduce body fat levels. That is what I was getting at.

@ollie: nope, red wine doesn't reduce test levels. So 1 glass a day is fine (natural resveratrol & melatonin). BUT going without red wine for those that cannot stop at 1 glass is advisory lol

health4ni wrote:@upright: the body does "work" to reduce body fat levels. That is what I was getting at.

@ollie: nope, red wine doesn't reduce test levels. So 1 glass a day is fine (natural resveratrol & melatonin). BUT going without red wine for those that cannot stop at 1 glass is advisory lol

Every silver lining has a cloud- no red wine for me then

The body takes time to fully recover when you have been drinking in large amounts, it will take priority to whats more important to recover. Why drink in such a way when your training! it looks like 3 steps forward 4 back to me. I guess you have to decide which is more of a priority for you drink or training or at least limit it

I hardly drink at all compared to the rest of the population...Is that good?

health4ni wrote:
@ollie: nope, red wine doesn't reduce test levels. So 1 glass a day is fine (natural resveratrol & melatonin). BUT going without red wine for those that cannot stop at 1 glass is advisory lol

Thought this was true for champagne too

marcus300 wrote:The body takes time to fully recover when you have been drinking in large amounts, it will take priority to whats more important to recover. Why drink in such a way when your training! it looks like 3 steps forward 4 back to me. I guess you have to decide which is more of a priority for you drink or training or at least limit it

To be fair thats the first time i've drank in about......2months, when i drink I do it properly though and get trounced, mates are used to it now but since i rarely drink i die quickly but keep going...as well im a man and im too proud to let them win!

Besides im at uni like, I love my training and see its importance but frankly the 'bodybuilder' lifestyle can be boring as sin, many of those I've come across who are extremely dedicated seem to be a social retard to some extent which is not exactly what I want. I think my dedication is pretty good for someone of my age, its not exactly been straightforward for me and would be easy to become a total pisshead but im not and take huge amounts of abuse off friends for driving once again.

Besides, Bison has completely disproved the alcohol is bad for training theory. He takes his CEE in merlot before training and a shot of port instead of using smelling salts for big lifts!

Shicky wrote:frankly the 'bodybuilder' lifestyle can be boring as sin, many of those I've come across who are extremely dedicated seem to be a social retard to some extent which is not exactly what I want.

I'm kind of with you there mate. I'm noticing this in myself sometimes and it gets right up my crack on a night out!

Psychologically it's difficult but I think I need to drink more!

Shicky wrote:Besides im at uni like, I love my training and see its importance but frankly the 'bodybuilder' lifestyle can be boring as sin, many of those I've come across who are extremely dedicated seem to be a social retard to some extent which is not exactly what I want. I think my dedication is pretty good for someone of my age, its not exactly been straightforward for me and would be easy to become a total pisshead but im not and take huge amounts of abuse off friends for driving once again.

A credit to you young man. Everything in moderation. I was a total smack head at your age, i'd spend a couple of grand every few months on computer parts and the rest would be pissed up the wall or snorted from a bag... It's good you've found an interest in this early, and at a time when your body is probably still highly anabolic and receptive. So enjoy the fact that you can get away with a few beers, but it's just common sense that you're gonna have a shit time the next day - whatver you're doing.

And imo, at your age, there's only one reason to drink and that is to get pissed - if I wanted to enjoy a refreshing drink, booze would be the very last thing on my list. So binging every month or every other is no propblem at all but be careful you don't end up nicked for something daft...

GymBunny wrote:

health4ni wrote:
@ollie: nope, red wine doesn't reduce test levels. So 1 glass a day is fine (natural resveratrol & melatonin). BUT going without red wine for those that cannot stop at 1 glass is advisory lol

Thought this was true for champagne too

The first time I heard that was from Alex. That's not to say I don't believe him or that champagne is ok, but I've never heard it or read it anywhere else. Let's hope it is true. Whereas with red wine I've heard/read a few top nutritionists say it's ok (in moderation as I say).

ollie wrote:

Shicky wrote:frankly the 'bodybuilder' lifestyle can be boring as sin, many of those I've come across who are extremely dedicated seem to be a social retard to some extent which is not exactly what I want.

I'm kind of with you there mate. I'm noticing this in myself sometimes and it gets right up my crack on a night out!

Psychologically it's difficult but I think I need to drink more!

I was like this, then I wasn't. Then I was again and now I'm not.

Following?

I've learnt to almost be drunk and act as mad as a bag of badgers without touching a drop.

health4ni wrote:The first time I heard that was from Alex. That's not to say I don't believe him or that champagne is ok, but I've never heard it or read it anywhere else. Let's hope it is true. Whereas with red wine I've heard/read a few top nutritionists say it's ok (in moderation as I say).

No offence health, but if that ridiculous monster says drinking champagne will make me as big as a silver back, I'm off to the offy right now to get me some bolinger!

upright wrote:

health4ni wrote:The first time I heard that was from Alex. That's not to say I don't believe him or that champagne is ok, but I've never heard it or read it anywhere else. Let's hope it is true. Whereas with red wine I've heard/read a few top nutritionists say it's ok (in moderation as I say).

No offence health, but if that ridiculous monster says drinking champagne will make me as big as a silver back, I'm off to the offy right now to get me some bolinger!

LPR is where it's at

Alex wrote:LPR is where it's at

Had to google that you camp SOB

Ingredients
2 oz. Kahlua
2 oz. Bacardi White Rum
2 scoops of Vanilla Ice Cream
Splash of Milk (If needed)

Mixing Instruction
Combine all the ingredients in a blender with 2 scoops of ice. Blend until smooth. If the mix is too thick, add a splash of milk. Serve in a tall glass with a straw.

upright wrote:

Alex wrote:LPR is where it's at

Had to google that you camp SOB

Ingredients
2 oz. Kahlua
2 oz. Bacardi White Rum
2 scoops of Vanilla Ice Cream
Splash of Milk (If needed)

Mixing Instruction
Combine all the ingredients in a blender with 2 scoops of ice. Blend until smooth. If the mix is too thick, add a splash of milk. Serve in a tall glass with a straw.

What the hell is that?

This is what I'm on about...