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A new stim

Postby health4ni on Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:05 pm

What do you think of this combo for a pre-wo stim:

Caffeine anhydrous: 225mg
Tyrosine: 150 mg
L-Phenylalanine: 50mg

All in one capsule. You could take anywhere from 1-4 caps I guess, maybe 30-45mins before training.

The addition of tyrosine and l-phenylalnine help prevents the crashing associated with caffeine. Meant to be good for adrenal health too.
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Re: A new stim

Postby kp1512 on Thu Dec 03, 2009 11:35 pm

prob nearer 4+ unless ive missed a common pathway that they all synergisitcally work?
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Re: A new stim

Postby cleaver on Fri Dec 04, 2009 12:04 am

well the caffeine should act as a potentiator.

l-phenylanine is the precursor to l-tyrosine. l-tyrosine is the precursor to l-dopa. l-dopa is the precursor to dopamine and norepinephrine.

l-phenylanine is also the precursor of phenethylamine which is the bodies natural amphetamine. The presence of l-tyrosine might encourage your body to convert the l-phenylanine to phenethylamine instead.

In theory it should work but probably just as well having some phenethylamine with l-tyrosine instead
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Re: A new stim

Postby Rilla on Fri Dec 04, 2009 5:41 pm

I'd definately put less caffeine in it, as anything above 300mg caffeine will make most people feel bad.
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Re: A new stim

Postby health4ni on Sat Dec 05, 2009 5:21 pm

but I'm guessing this combo with the other two ingredients prevents that?
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Re: A new stim

Postby julesm on Sat Dec 05, 2009 8:55 pm

there is a thread over on avant quite similar, with studies to back it up
it seems people choose phenyl over tyrosine as a mood potentiator, so by default would make it a stim
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